Odin/Wotan is the mysterious wisdom bringer and god of the Norse and Germanic people. But in this video I explain why I think he is so much more.
Join me as I traverse legends, mythology, local histories, and ancient sites, from Europe, to Turkey, Egypt, to Easter Island, and right through Central and South America, tracing the footsteps of this enigmatic figure known as “the wanderer.”
References
- My own research into primary source documents, such as ancient texts
- Thor Heyerdahl’s book American Indians in the Pacific
- Graham Hancock’s book Magicians of the Gods
Just to add to this discussion on Odin, I have recently came across Thor Heyerdahl’s theory that Odin may have originally come to the Norse lands from the region of Caucasus. T. Heyerdahl had long been fascinated by the ancient petroglyphs of Gobustan in Azerbaijan (which are dated variously to 8000, 20000 and sometimes even 40000 years old), in particular those of reed boats that closely resembled the carvings found in his native Norway.
After finding a notation made by Snorri Sturluson, a 13th-century historian-mythographer in Ynglinga Saga, which relates that Odin moved with his people to Norway from a land called Aser (“east of the Caucasus mountains and the Black Sea”), in order to avoid Roman occupation, Heyerdahl proposed that Azerbaijan was the site of an ancient advanced civilization, from which Odin and his people possibly came. Later on, he changed this theory a little bit, locating the mythical land of Aser more north, near the sea of Azov, where he also started the excavations towards the end of his life.
Also an a curiosity, an interesting project of Norwegian and Azerbaijani musicians exploring their musical similarities:
http://azer.com/aiweb/categories/magazine/54_folder/54_articles/54_skruk.html
Galib Mammadov, the project coordinator and a music arranger shared his view on this project:
“For a long time I thought that Thor Heyerdahl’s theories were pure fantasy. Now I’m convinced they aren’t. Our mugham musicians were quite surprised when they saw a film about the original Norwegians – the Laps. ‘This is our music and culture,’ they said. Many of the expressions in our art and culture are similar to those we found in Norway,” He also added that he was surprised how well the Norwegian choir could sing Azerbaijani folk melodies.
An example of the music can be heard here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZoeI0uZE-0
Thanks Lucia, this is remarkable. Odin seems to be a much more powerful and real figure than I ever could have thought, also he seems to have travelled further than one could imagine and left an incredible legacy.
I started researching the most famous character in the Finnish mythology called Väinämöinen and sure enough he has been compared to Odin and Orpheus, as the accounts of their deeds and lives share many similarities (eg. journeys into the underworld, magical musical abilities, wandering sage).
He was seen as a national hero but also half divine, as in some versions of the creation myth he is involved in creating the world. He is described as born at night, or in secret, and coming into the world as an old man; as a wandering sage, with superior skills in knowledge and wisdom, music (rune songs (which can be used as spells and hold a great power) and playing a lyre type of instrument), smithing, sailing and building boats (sometimes only by knowledge ie. rune singing), healing, skilled with the sword and in battle. He would give useful advice to people.
Some say his name is derived from the word ‘väinä’ denoting a calm place in a stream (though he was also called Väinen, which sounds a bit like Woden to me…) The Orion and Pleiades were named after him in ancient times and he seems to have been closely associated with journeying by boat.
There are a few poems in the mythology that could be metaphors of some kind of natural disasters (where Väinämöinen accidentally hits himself with an axe and starts to bleed, and the blood floods the world, and another where the sun and moon are hidden inside a mountain by a witch like character ‘Louhi’).
Hi Laura,
What you wrote about Väinämöinen is interesting, because actually in the ancient legends of Caucasus called Nart Sagas there is also an Odin-like character named Tlepsh who seems to be very knowledgeable and often using supernatural powers as well. The similarities between Odin and Tlepsh have been first pointed out by the linguist John Colarusso (https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/589627.John_Colarusso) who had thoroughly analysed the Nart Sagas and came to some interesting conclusions. The similarities between these two mythical characters are quite well summarised on the Wikipedia page on Tlepsh: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tlepsh
To me personally, it was interesting to read about Tlepsh association with blacksmithing, as this could also possibly refer to Svarog.
Otherwise regarding T. Heyerdahl theory, I also found it very interesting to read about the so-called “foldable boats” that Odin was supposedly using for his migrations. Here is an excerpt from T. Heyerdahl’s writing on these boats:
“The other ship type probably represents a ‘skin boat’ with a rather short and bulky hull and an interior framework of wood, appearing on the petroglyphs as if viewed from outside. Such a boat is mentioned in early Norwegian sagas written down by the Icelander, Snorre Sturlason, before his death in 1241, (Snorri, The Sagas of the Viking Kings of Norway. English translation: J. M. Stenersens Forlag, Oslo 1987). According to the saga, the Viking kings descended from Odin, an immigrant hierarch who came in a vessel called Skithblathnir (Skidbladner) which could be folded together like a cloth. Odin came from the land of the “Aser”, and is, therefore, frequently referred to as “Asa-Odin”. The legendary land of the people known as Aser is given a very exact location in Snorre’s saga as east of the Caucasus mountains and the Black Sea.
From there, according to the same saga, Odin, owner of the foldable boat migrated with all his people northwestwardly through Russia, Saxland, and Denmark into Sweden where he died and lay buried in a huge funerary mound at Sigtuna. Asa-Odin’s saga with his boat and his itinerary has been considered by Nordic historians as a myth concocted in medieval times, although they consider the Nordic people as Caucasians. But, perhaps, Odin’s boat may indicate that the land of the Aser really lay by the Caspian Sea east of the Caucasus. In fact, in the 5th century B.C., the Greek historian, Herodotus, described such marvelous foldable boats used precisely in the area referred to in Asa-Odin’s saga as the home of th Aser, namely the land of the present day Azeri and Armenians.
In this area, Herodotus wrote, traveling merchants used boats built with a framework of wood and canes covered with skin, and of such great size that they carried one or more donkeys in addition to crew and cargo. They navigated down river to Babylonia where they sold their merchandise and the framework (wood), then they folded the skins and loaded them on the donkeys for their return upstream in preparation for the next voyage.”
Thank you for sharing that Lucia. Indeed the similarities between Tlepsh, Odin and Väinämöinen are striking. It struck me that in one story Väinämöinen also transforms himself into a snake in order to escape a trap they’ve put for him in the underworld where he went to search for knowlegde.
And what an amazing connection with the skin boats! Actually quite recently I came across a reference that in one version of a poem in the Finnish oral tradition a blacksmith/god (on a similar level with Väinämöinen in terms of being), builds a boat ‘covered by the skin of a fish’ (or a whale or seal).
Just re-reading these comments, and it struck me how similar “Louhi” is to “Loki”. Hiding the sun and moon in a mountain sounds like the kind of trickery Loki would play. There’s also a legend where Odin enters the underworld as a serpent.
Yes, I’ve seen that similarity being noted between Loki and Louhi. While they seem to represent the same forces, Louhi’s name has a local etymology. As a goddess, she is probably the same as ‘Lovehetar’, also ‘Louhetar’. ‘Lovehetar’ is based on Fi. ‘lovi’, En. ‘crack’, meaning the crack through which one goes into other dimensions (probably mostly the underworld). ‘Lovi’ and ‘louhi’ could have the same origin, or ‘louhi’ could be independently derived from Germanic loan words meaning ‘flight’ or ‘fire’, probably also referring to entrance to/travel in other dimensions. It’s interesting that the goddess Hel is Loki’s daughter, while Louhi/Lovehetar is the mistress and ruler of the underworld/realm of death, representative and generator of the forces of evil, disease, and destruction.
Very good points Lucia and the connection between these places and people reflect things resonate with things I’ve read and discovered too.
Thanks Lucia,
Quite a bit to explore there; it’s greatly appreciated.
That’s so interesting Lucia. I came across Thor Heyerdahl’s book The Hunt for Odin some time ago but was disheartened by all the people who said he was wrong in his theories. Maybe there’s something to what he says after all :)
I also came across the choir SKRUK not long ago but didn’t know who they were exactly. But I liked their music, like this song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asByt2pDIjo
Hi Anne, yes I know what you mean about disheartenment… T. Heyerdahl has been so very enthusiastic about this discovery, and the people of both nations as well! :-) I think it at least suffice to say, that there are some interesting connections between these two regions, mentioned in the old sagas and also in the rock art. Whether it was the same wisdom-bringer or another one (maybe Svarog?) using the same technical means is difficult to say…
The song you shared is really nice, I think its from the same type of songs where they combine these 2 musical influences.
I wanted to share an experience by a woman on youtube who has a unique way of translating the old Norse texts. I’ve watched several of her videos, and they’re all very interesting. Anyway, she says she was visited several times by Odin, or an Odin like being. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pIt881LFgnU&feature=youtu.be&t=4010
Here’s an interview with her that first caught my interest:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBOrU6r4IVQ
Very nice! Thank you very much for sharing Anne Linn. I like how this lady combines her academic research with her intuitive search and guidance from her dreams. It looks like Odin may have visited her in her childhood because of her later mission in life as a historian of the old Norse culture. I also liked her description of him, very inspiring.
I think that may be the case too Lucia. I also came across the work of Maria Kvilhaug some time ago, and found her approach to be very unique and insightful. I have on my “to read” list her book The Seed of Yggdrasil.
I was also thinking that she might have a mission of sorts and that she’s being helped by the divine :)
I bought The Seed of Yggdrasil, but have only read a little bit so far.
Here’s another interesting dream she had where she was cleaning in the field around the earth, releasing bits of light and knowledge as she scrubbed :D
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9VCgcKrmRE&t=
Thank you for sharing Anne, that sounded like quite a revealing dream! It also totally makes sense, as “clearing the information field” is exactly what this lady is doing, and also just like in her dream, the particles of light/authentic truth are sparkling from her work, helping people to understand our past in a new light… I also found it interesting what some people mentioned in the comments to her video, how the “metallic mosquitos” from her dream reminded them of the satellites. :-) In a way, it is true as the mass-media are pouring a lot of rubbish on people today, twisting and blurring their perception of reality, sometimes even to the point of absurdity. What she said about the many “light workers” also rang true, as I can see how many people there are today who take part in this massive global “cleaning” – independent researchers, archeologists, artists, or even completely random people who seemingly “accidentally” stumble upon some revealing discoveries about our ancient past, megalithic structures, etc. It just looks like a massive effort from the side of Light to wake us up and to show us our true heritage and hopefully a better future.
I agree Lucia, that this lady is forging ahead combining esoteric matters into academia is very important. Like Lara I’ve added the book, The Seed of Yggdrasil, to my ‘To Read’ list — which unfortunately is growing a little too much!
Thanks for sharing information about this lady Anne Linn.
Thanks for sharing Anne Linn. This video was was a very inspiring watch as I have yet to see the Poetic Edda interpreted as a way of describing initiations. Maria Kvilhaug’s approach to studying the Poetic Edda is also one to learn from. I am impressed at her dedication and the depth that she went into.
Here’s another video where she shares how she met Jesus, among other interesting beings in a lucid dream. It ends with drawings of Odin :) Very fascinating and inspiring all of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHPsDr3JO8
Thank you very much for bringing that lady and what she has to share to attention Anne Linn, I loved the interview from which it’s apparent she’s gotten hold of a right track of discovery, be it within her ‘area’ of showing it through the Norse myths. The segment where she describes her dream/OBE experiences with what the force Odin (also?) represents was also very insightful I found, and I find it wonderful to hear :-)! there are people out there who are still able to be receive experiences and guidance of such a degree.
Interestingly I had been wondering here and there in the last few months about the one eye of Odin, and my personal feeling as to what it meant matched part of the meaning she describes in the video.
Like Lucia and Lara mention, I think she must’ve been someone able to carry out such a ‘mission’ and was given help accordingly, perhaps it particularly entails being a voice, opening up and alluding to the esoteric/personal reality within the Norse/Edda mythology to people interested in it within the modern uncomprehending/skeptical culture. It seems she’s doing just that and that’s wonderful!
Looking forward to hearing how some of her particular insights from her study of these ancient myths can add to the bigger picture.
Thanks again Anne Linn (also for finding, and linking directly to, that interesting section describing her experience among her videos)
Thanks for sharing Anne Linn
Great share Anne Linn, thank you for resurfacing again the work of Maria Kvilhaug. I agree, that it seems she has been guided so much in order to break into the enigmatic world of norse mythology. Having these personal experiences with beings teaching her seem to have had an enormous influence and given depth to her work and understanding. For instance I remember hearing her explain the names of ‘opposers’ that warriors would challenge/fight in their journeys, and she was the first to translate deeper the meaning behind their names, such as that the warrior would be defeating someone named ‘Anger’, ‘Fear’ etc.. This certainly helped to decipher the allegorical and insightful meaning of the norse myth. Her work is inspiring, and it feels like there has been a great force with her driving the accomplishment of what she does.
I also really enjoyed hearing her describe the figure of the watchman in her experience, and her questions to him that led her to the ancient name of Odin, which sounded like Wotan. How he was a powerful force that seeked knowledge endlessly. (I am not sure, but perhaps the feminine aspect was mentioned therefore as an aspect that receives knowledge, as the mother helps with the dissolution of darkness within and brings back knowledge to us)
Finally I love her closing remarks about seeing visions which made everything all the more personable and down to earth. i.e. that visions/experiences do not equal spiritual enlightenment:
“to see visions is easy but to integrate them into your life at every level is a time-consuming path that actually requires a lifetime of dedication and unwavering insight/intent. We are so easily fooled by the clever ideas in our heads that we start to think we have assimilated them in areas of our life where we actually have not.”
I thought this was a really great statement about seeking personal experience, and a reminder of how guidance and inspiration can be given to us temporarily, but ultimately meaningless if we don’t build upon it through our own work as opposed to the notion of over-night awakenings/revelations. They are precious things, and Maria seems to have been able to separate what is hers, and what is the guidance that is pushing her to go further.
I also liked what she said here:
”whenever we insist on remaining inside a worldview box, our wisdom becomes stale and our minds small”
That’s such an amazing experience of Maria’s with what seems like it must have been Odin! Thanks Anne Linn for sharing. It’s really heartening to hear of this kind of profound internal interaction with the force/Being that is ‘the watcher’ and I echo what others say that it serves as a great reminder of how essential it is to seek inner personal learning while on the intellectual quest for understanding and evidence of the ancient global religion of the sun, but also that these memorable experiences are the sustenance for a daily work (grind!) for lasting inner change, not the change itself!
I got the chance today to watch that longer interview of hers, Anne Linn. I’m so glad you’ve shared it. I was inspired to hear how she went about her research and in general happy that she’s sustained such a keen interest in a very important topic. Very spot on about the “time to descend” and the way she interpreted the initiation aspect of it. And then saving the “sleeping lady” out of darkness to then reach the light — wonderful symbolism.
Recently I came across a form of modern popular media featuring Odin, as well taking its whole general theme and setting from the old Norse lore.
I realise that this is not research into ancient sources, it’s a modern video game. But because the reach of such media is so great and because modern media is increasingly realistic looking I wanted to share my observations about what’s going on in those circles, for anyone who might find it useful.
The video game is the latest instalment in an ongoing series called ‘God of War’, a violent ‘hack and slash’ genre action game. Something millions upon millions of people worldwide play through and take in. This time around the Greek god and protagonist from the previous games has moved onto the universe of old Norse lore, with Norse gods, stories and events.
Rather than creating an entirely new set of characters names and story universe, it’s much more juicy, relatable and grand to use real sources, poems, archaeology and names of gods. Visually video games are able to look more and more realistic nowadays. This combination of old mythology and ancient sites featured in a beautiful realistic 3D setting might seem great… However its used to create a violent, bloody, emotionally warped video game.
It’s obvious the developers employed research of Norse mythology. The Edda’s, Odin, Baldur, Freya, the Aesir and Vanir, the Midgard world serpent, many place names, stories etc. it’s all there. Related areas such as Viking, Celtic and ancient pagan history and their symbols are also used. And even things related to the solstices, as well the ‘Graham Hancock type’ of subjects like submerged under water cities, faces carved on mountains and many other things.
One example is here where the world tree Yggdrassil is used in the game. ( https://youtu.be/iwoe8sTkp90?t=1h25m4s )
One could say it’s just a game. One could also look at it from the perspective of modern retelling. For example Tolkien used many ancient sources, myths and historical language to create a new fantasy story, a modern retelling which helped to carry over older deeper messages to a newer era. One could say this is similar, but if I look at a part of the video here for example. *warning very violent disturbing content* ( https://youtu.be/iwoe8sTkp90?t=29m55s ) I find it quite disturbing that ancient lore, which has perhaps a deeper symbolic side to it— is used like this!
Another example: Runic writing which is considered sacred and magical by some, is something that’s exploited in the video game. Along with runic symbols there’s also Celtic ones and even many symbols related to the spirituality of the sun which appear plenty throughout the game. Tattooed on people, carved on doors, everywhere really. See this frame here for example. ( https://youtu.be/iwoe8sTkp90?t=2h26m52s)
Or here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwoe8sTkp90&feature=youtu.be&t=4h50m52s )
It seems this video game too (just like the TV show Vikings and Game of Thrones perhaps, both of which I haven’t seen so I can’t really comment) seems to capture the ‘zeitgeist’ of the resurged interest in the old Pagan ways, such as Norse mythology.
But for me personally, breathing in nature, celebrating solstices and equinoxes, tuning into sacred sites in real life. Seeing that real potential, it’s for me very sad to see those very things used and misused. The message of sacred areas, symbols, sacred writing, the gods. To see that exploited.
Like I mentioned on Tolkien, maybe through these more mainstream forms of media ancient legends are able to reach more people, from that it might spark an interest in someone to look for the real thing. But there’s a rapid degeneration of media.
What I see happening here in a more metaphysical sense is that ‘newly revealed truth, that current energy entering the world, that light’ is eagerly perverted and injected into entertainment to make its pleasure more potent.
Unfortunately increasingly in the new generations I see imprisonment of the psyche, by being addicted to pleasure and this entertainment as a way of life. That they are not able to step out of that entertainment anymore and go out into the ‘raw’ reality, unable to appreciate and feel nature. I see the gates closing.
So I’m really supportive of projects such as Sakro Sawel which hopefully enable people to connect to the spiritual life in nature and reality, to find and activate the spiritual part within themselves, and then in a real way explore the ancient beautiful mysteries.
Those are good observations Karim. Yes, it’s very sad that humanity’s collective spiritual history is being lost to society as a whole, in favour of mindless entertainment, which feeds the egos. So I’m also very grateful to have this and related sites, which bring a far more inspiring, deep and rich cultural and spiritual history back to life.
Thanks for pointing that out Karim, it’s amazing how deeply that game delves into the ancient teachings.
It’s pretty common to see spiritual knowledge used in entertainment these days, I’ve seen it popping up everywhere and it’s clearly getting worse.
I’ve heard that inverted esoteric symbols are being used in some very popular and disturbing video games in the same way as in music, fashion etc., but what you describe Karim seems like another twist to things – take a descendant tradition or traditions, practices and symbols from the religion of the Sun and mix it up with violence etc. and present it as entertainment. It seems they’ve really thought about it and planned it well too. I think a lot of these video games are actually more popular than one might realise – like one of the games I mentioned would sell an incredible amount world wide just in the first week of its release.
Perhaps it’s part of the agenda of confusing light and dark in people’s minds that seems to be going on in all of media these days, especially movies and such. So I agree with Michael that Sakro Sawel’s work is extremely important in dispelling the confusion and telling the truth.
Yes, I agree Laura. This unfortunate trend does seem to be part of the agenda to confuse symbols and traditions of light with those of darkness.
I’ve always found computer games quite disturbing, especially the violent kind, but these examples are even more so – they’re so very life-like (I can imagine how addictive they might become and how they could blur the border of reality and fantasy for users) and twist and debase the great strength of true spiritual warriors into simple anger and hateful violence. It’s sad to see that this is what has become of the memory of figures like Odin.
Thanks for bringing up the topic of the video games Karim. I think this is something that young people today are getting more and more involved in and totally identified/fascinated with. The games also seem to be getting more and more violent (judging just from what my nephew is playing) and spreading like a wildfire, becoming a part of everyday life of many people. Often, when searching for a term online for example, I first stumble upon some kind of video game first, before finding the real meaning of a thing I am searching for. I think this illustrates how much the games penetrated into the lives of many people, making them more and more artificial and surreal. From this point of view then, it makes sense that the dark agenda would find this area a fertile ground for spreading their influence, blurring and twisting the meaning of real things, words, symbols, etc., eventually bringing up a generation of people with altered and twisted perception of reality, especially when it comes to the powerful spiritual symbols or concepts.
As an example, relatively recently I was searching online for the meaning of a word that I came across during a spiritual practice. The first thing that popped up was this word being associated with a video game where it represented some kind of an evil planet that the game protagonists needed to escape from. Only after some more search and digging deeper, I stumbled upon a real meaning of this word in an ancient language, the meaning totally opposite to what the game was alluding to…
You made some good points there Ella and Lucia. These games seem to blur reality on many levels. There is the realistic and graphic violence of the games, which players are likely to become identified with as they become more engrossed in the fantasy world created within the game and begin to identify more and more with the main characters. Then there is the blurring of good and evil, so that players feel that the power of the ancient spiritual figures featured in the games comes from brute force and bloodthirsty violence, rather than spiritual strength and humble self-sacrifice. It’s really a shocking message to pass onto an upcoming generation, which is why it’s so important for those who know about the true meaning of humanity’s spiritual history to put things into their true context.
Just wanna say I really appreciate your comments/replies you’re giving under this and the other videos of yours on the youtube channel.
It’s remarkable for me, there is someone who is researching in such depth Odin’s origins and history and can present them to those who are interested.
Especially about Odin, looks like there are a lot of people who are interested but at the same time from the little I read, there is a bit of confusion, where myths/legends, history and misinformation are mixed up.
Looking forward watching the next video about Odin you said, as any other, you’re preparing.
Thanks Fotis. I just had an out-of-body experience with the Being who is known as Odin/Wotan (there are people who have commented on the video that he has appeared to them in dreams, and even in an NDE). From what I saw there are things that have been attributed to him – some of which are correct, and some that are incorrect. He is a remarkable Being though. I will be making a video about it.
This is how research in the physical world into history and ancient texts etc., and that out of the body, can work together (as long as both are done objectively).
Sounds amazing! That makes the next video even more interesting to watch. And it’s nice to have the accounts from those who had an experience with Him altogether.
Thanks again
That’s wonderful to hear Lara.
I see that if someone understands the principles within life/the religion of the sun they can – combined with direct otherworldly guidance and direction – become very helpful.
Diving into, which is a personal effort/sacrifice, the chaos of information out there. To recognize in it, shed one’s light on and extracting from it: order, and a knowledge to present that rings true and clarifies for others as well.
Looking forward to hearing about this specific experience :-)
I can see how things can be attributed to people or divine beings at later stages and how over time those things can easily become part of things associated with them.
Thank you very much for mentioning this experience Lara. Indeed, if anybody deserves to meet this Being through an out-of-nody experience,it is you, as you have done such an incredible research, helping people to understand who he really is. I have been wondering also why exactly now it seems to be the time when these wisdom bringers are being brought to our attention like this, what would be their role in the current times so to speak…
That’s very inspiring Lara. I also look forward to the video and learning more about Odin.
Thank you for sharing that Lara. It’s wonderful and inspiring. I agree with Lucia that you are worthy of meeting him, especially as you are doing such an important work of clearing his name and reputation so to speak and setting it right, so that people can understand who he really is and that he can be credited with what is due to him. And I agree with Fotis that it’s been absolutely refreshing and helpful to read your generous and kind comments to people’s comments and questions on here and your YouTube videos. Thanks for taking the time for the open discussion.
Looking forward to your next video(s)!
That’s amazing to hear Lara, thank you for sharing that you had a meeting in the higher places with Odin/Wotan. It would be great to hear more about it – it’s such a huge thing to learn that these mythic figures are still teaching humanity. There are so many people who still feel a connection to this Being here on Earth – maybe some think he was/is an abstract God and never a man, maybe some think he was a divine man that lived long ago that they can no longer reach – to know the truth can be an inspiration to all.
It appears you have his attention Lara :) Wonderful!
More and more eager to hear about this experience and what you learned!
Even his name already seems elusive to me, apparently tracing to the Proto-Germanic word ‘wōdaz’ meaning angry, energised, spirited, or excited. But that word again traces to the Proto-Indo-European word ‘*weh₂t-‘ where the ‘to be excited’ meaning also includes the meaning ‘inspired’. Apparently in the way that seers, poets and oracles are inspired as the word *weh₂t- also formed into the Latin ‘vatēs’ which has those meanings, as well as the Old Irish word ‘fáith’ which came to mean the same (i.e. seer, soothsayer, prophet.)
(Most of this I got from connected Wikipedia pages. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/weh%E2%82%82t-)
It makes me really curious whether the aspects these linguistics describe would be true to the ‘character’ of this particular wisdom bringer and Being Odin.
A similar wonder came up for me a few weeks ago about Viracocha (which according to some means ‘foam of the sea’). This surname was apparently given to that Being, when he finally left the South American lands, because he departed by sea and because he was white-skinned. But is that his real, or more accurate, name? Or is the original name of his, of the bearded sun-king of those lands ‘Kon-Tiki’/’Con-Tici’? (These questions I base mainly on information provided by Thor Heyerdhal.)
It’s just interesting to wonder how those names for those wisdom bringers and Beings came to be. What Lara mentioned as one of her ideas of how ‘Odin’ could perhaps also be a title is quite an eyeopening concept. Were there other creator god titles elsewhere too, also used by multiple physically living wisdom bringers over spans of time? Like how the Being Jesus uses the name Christ and how a prominent Being in Hinduism, Krishna, also made use of such a title?
So much to look into and I feel I know so little, but it’s magical to see the past, once thought of merely as myth, come to life!! Thanks Lara.
That’s amazing to hear Lara! It makes me so happy that you and others have experiences with Odin. I love that he’s still around, still so very relevant to this day and age. There was something about him that drew me even when I was younger. Something about his name perhaps. Not sure how to explain it.
It seems that if you look for him— he finds you.
My mouth nearly dropped just now in apparently finding his traces, or of peoples apparently descendent from his tradition, so close to home…. in the very places and hills I visit daily and with their centres being the known sacred sites of the area (which also align to the solstice/equinoxes)
I can’t quite believe it to be honest, and having only just stumbled on it it warrants a lot more looking into of course.
Who were the Votadini? http://roman-britain.co.uk/tribes/votadini.htm http://www.proto-english.org/etymo3.html
That’s an incredible find Karim! Thanks for sharing it. As you said, it would need looking into further, in order to establish a clear link between Votan/ Wotan/ Odin and the Votadini, but it’s also inspiring to see some areas I’m familiar with that may share this common spiritual ancestry.
Wow, what an awesome video! Many thanks for putting that together and getting it out there Lara. It’s great to see something concrete, joining the dots between the different religions.
I’ve always felt, for a long time, long before I found the inner work, that all the religions in the world were talking about the same thing; as if they were looking at the same object from different angles, and describing what they saw and understood. But I just had a general sense of that being the case, and nothing to really go on where I could present anything to anyone to back this up. I just had a knowing; in the same way I’ve known there are other races in the universe. Never seen or met an extra-terrestrial but I knew they were out there.
But this is fantastic! It’s great to see the parallels clearly explained in this way. And to have some insights into what’s really at the heart of all the myth and legend of it all.
I thought it was quite strange when I was in Mexico visiting ancient Mayan sites that they would recount Kulkulcan (or Quetzalcoatl) as fair skinned, with a beard & robe. Knowing the people who lived there, it just seemed obvious that this magical leader was obviously an outsider, some one from elsewhere. I also found this in stories of Native American tribes and the wisdom bringers to their peoples. In ‘He Walked The America’s’ L. Taylor Hansen recounts stories and legends she received first hand from living Native Americans and their ‘sainted one’ who came to them from over sea’s. His name is different from tribe to tribe but the physical qualities remain pretty much the same; beautiful, radiant, fair complexion, fair hair, blue eyes and a white robe and he carried a staff and the sign of the cross was on him in some fashion.
This just seemed crazy to me.. But opened up a big ‘what if’.
Of course today the most prominent Native American symbol is the cross within a circle (with the 4 colors of black, yellow, read and white in the 4 quadrants), which perhaps could be linked with beginning the initiatic path.
Thank you for the information on Odin! This was all new to me and helps strengthen this perspective further. Again, the production value is awesome. Great job to everyone, from lighting to animation & music.
What a great video!
I just watched it for the second time; there is so much to take in and to contemplate on. One of the things that stood out for me is that it seems that great spiritual leaders of the past were teaching in person and perhaps mostly passing on information verbally and/or by demonstrating the principles. It occurred to me that nowadays, same as in the past, we still really learn a great deal in life directly from others, and not as much from reading books or absorbing information from other sources. This appears to apply not only to spirituality, but anything in life really, even science and mathematics. I would dare to say, that without a wise teacher, information cannot really be understood and transformed into knowledge that leads anywhere meaningful.
Thank you Lara and everyone involved in creating this video.
Great video Lara,
When I was younger many people who had no belief in divinity told me that all the religions of the world essentially came from the same sources and they felt that all the bickering between religions was a senseless waste of time.
Listening to this video it seems that many of the religions that have arisen in different places could well have come from the same teachings.
Thanks for putting the time into researching this, it’s greatly appreciated.
There were two images that stood out to me in the video – the one is the statue of the man and woman where it looks as though the woman may have had her arm around the man (6:38). This is of course quite the opposite of the norm and was something I thought I’d remembered you mention in your articles and videos about reestablishing the feminine in the godhead, as an example of women’s equal positions in more spiritually advanced cultures. It made me think how this must have obviously been part of his teaching.
The other was Odin on his throne (0:34). It’s such an incredible image. He looks exhausted but also immensely powerful. I looked but I can’t find the artists – would you happen you know?
Thanks again!
Hi Ella, I think that’s my favorite image of Odin/Wotan. Exhausted and powerful came to my mind too. Somehow this sculpture captures the walker of the path. Here is where it’s from: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Maison_Rudolf_Wotan_Historisches_Museum_Regensburg_20160929_01.jpg
Thank you. I think I’ll find a print of it for somewhere in my home. It might help to act me as a reminder of the seriousness of the inner work.
The way the birds are on that statue reminds me of the bird on the statue of Khafre in the Cairo museum. I guess they are more literally sheltering a sun disc on the Odin statue, and more allegorically sheltering a “son” in the Khafre statue.
Thanks for highlighting that image Ella, of the statue of Wotan.
I agree with what you say Lara in what it seems to capture.
It made me think of the word ‘weary’ as used in the following quote (which I first heard about through Mark’s book btw) From the Pyramid texts, utterance 218:163. “He comes indeed, this Unas, weary of the Nine, an Imperishable spirit, he that bore more than you, he that suffered more than you, he that is more weary than you….”
But I guess that enduring…. and that bearing is not for nothing as it follows saying: “he that became greater than you, he who will be happier than you, he who roars louder than you. …”
In a similar way it makes me consider the weight and responsibility of carrying of the cross as some have mentioned.
Thank you so much for another excellent and eye-open video Lara, it really got me wondering. I really love how this amazing knowledge is like coming out of this void, as I mentioned perhaps earlier, like the light increasing after the winter darkness.
Such an interesting look into Odin, and watching your video several times it kind of reminded me of a figures that may have been been concepted on Odin just from your description, which was Santa Clause and it was interesting to read your comment today about your perspective on this too.
It also made me wonder whether the male concept of Godhead of a man with a beard overlooking humanity may have derived from Odin as well, especially the similarity in words that God and Odin share. I tried to find where did the word God originate from and it seems that it tends to mean the ‘invoked one’ and could have been derived from Indo-European, https://wahiduddin.net/words/name_god.htm It also made me wonder than if Odin being perhaps one of the wisdom bringers of the Religion of the Sun, having the association with the Sun, bringing spiritual wisdom in all aspects of life, could possibly have been the one on which the word God, was derived from, as the one coming from the Sun. Its interesting that Odin is also referred to as the All-Father. Whether this was the case or not, it seems the more that is revealed about Odin the more of our history is coming together and starts to make sense.
I also came across this site which I found interesting in its reference to how Odin could mean ‘travel, walked, journey’ http://oldeuropeanculture.blogspot.com.au/2015/02/odin-wandering-deity.html and also to the suggestion that Odin referred as Vodan in Roman was seen as the equivalent of Mercury, ‘traveller, messenger, guide” When it comes to languages and dating its seem to me that it can be difficult to know what came first, whether Odin meant traveller / wanderer or whether Odin came to be the word for wanderer/traveller.
Thanks again and looking forward to the next part of the story as it unfolds.
What a fantastic video – so much interesting information packed into it. The many similarities amongst the Wisdom Bringers, the knowledge they imparted, and the great importance of the sun, is truly incredible.
What profound journeys they would have had in those times. I would imagine they also had a lot of knowledge of ship building to travel such vast distances too. Quite mind-blowing when we look at the time frames.
A rich history of commonalities with a binding spiritual link. Amazing to have it finally divulged in such a succinct way.
It’s incredible to consider how many figures that are considered mythical may actually be real people who once lived and played an important role in the world. I really enjoyed reading about mythology when I was a kid and used to pore over stories from Egypt, Scandinavia, Greece, South America and other places. They all held this compelling sense of antiquity and mystery, even if the deeper meaning wasn’t totally clear.
Now looking at many of these similarities in the symbols, myths, archeological remains, and so on explained in this video and in Mark and Lara’s work, it gives a glimpse of past events that are much broader in scope then I would have previously imagined. Pretty incredible!
I hope even more information comes to light to reconstruct the story of what happened in those prehistoric times, and that the work of the wisdom bringers becomes recognized and more people can explore the spiritual heritage they left behind.
Also glad to hear about the Kolbrin text referenced in this video, which I had never heard of before. Look forward to exploring that a bit more.
It looks like a great mystery and because of lack of evidence, it’s hard to be explained. But the way you connect the dots Lara, makes sense to me and there must be someone or a group of people who after the cataclysm could bring the knowledge of different fields to people.
Even myths like this one of Prometheus giving the fire of the Gods to people sounds similar to me.
The question is about the ages. The wisdom bringers who the Vedic script talk about are persons who came at the same age (?) maybe after the cataclysm. That’s difficult to find out. When Odin, Votan, Viracocha, Kukulkan, Osiris lived/existed? We have evidence of what left behind that gives a great proof of the connection between the different cultures but we don’t know much about their origins. And so many other questions…
I’m really looking forward to the next videos. It’s a huge, epic job you are doing and wish the best, to flourish and unite humanity.
Btw it’s interesting that this video is coming out around the same time with other videos which are using Wotan and terms like awakening with a different way.
Very interesting τhe video about Odin.
It’s amazing that he traveled through the sea to so many remote places in order to share his precious teachings about the Sacred Sun.
It also seems that he had advanced technology in order to do all these achievements.
Definitely, after these facts, the human history should be written again
Thank you so much for weaving all of this together so succinctly Lara. It’s incredible to comprehend that the seeds of knowledge that have shaped human civilization were brought forth and ‘planted’ all across the earth by a divine human, or a small number of. The similarities in the names, the appearance – down to the garments, but most importantly the teachings of the primary mythical teacher within cultures assumed as totally separate really does make a strong case for Odin being the same ‘wisdom bringer’ as all the other teachers you mentioned.
But it’s the idea that this reestablishing of civilization repeats and repeats that’s truly astonishing, and the time involved, and the effort. How there’s so much wisdom etched into every part of the world, that’s at present utterly forgotten or totally unappreciated.
Thank you again – I always believed Gandalf was real ;-)
The character Gandalf is fantastic. Amazing in the film how he descends into the underworld as an act of self-sacrifice (like Odin), and then resurrects.
Santa Claus is also based largely on Odin and his traditions that were celebrated at Yule (which is where the riding on a sleigh and bringing presents comes from at the winter solstice/Christmas). It’s quite astonishing how humanity, at least on a subliminal level, is drawn to Odin, and how much he has permeated our lives.
I think you made a really good point there Ella, where you mentioned “How there’s so much wisdom etched into every part of the world, that’s at present utterly forgotten or totally unappreciated”. Very true and I’m hugely grateful for the work that Mark and Lara have done and continue to do, to bring this knowledge back to humanity.
After all the misunderstanding that surrounds the Vikings/ Norse people, as being savages and thieves. It brings much joy to see the truth emerge, of this wonderful tradition that once practised the religion of the sun.
The countless examples of this connection is undeniable, and i hope this may reach many more in the new times ahead.
Our humanity has been in the shadows for so long, we finally have been given the opportunity to know the truth.
Thankyou very much Lara for this video, and everyone else who is at the forefront of this great project.
Yes Chris! I gave a lift to some Danish travellers the other day and we were chatting about their country and they said the Danes had been Vikings and then said sorry! Obviously in a joking way, but it revealed how it’s so ingrained in our culture, and obviously the Norse people’s themselves, that the Vikings ‘raped and pillaged’ their way around. Even though this must have been a part of their history, it’s so good to have some more of the truth emerge, especially something that paints their ancient culture in a totally different light.
Very interesting to consider this. I need to see the video a few more times, I feel, to have it sink in properly. I also found it peculiar to see seven people, the wisdom bringers, depicted on a boat both in the Hindu and Egyptian art (and possibly in others that I missed?). Just so much intriguing info here and the implications too! All these similarities — I’m excited to see how more of them will be tied together. Many thanks to the team behind the scenes for putting this together so beautifully.
Amazing!!!
Amazing video, amazing subject!
Thanks a lot for preparing and posting this video Lara and everyone that is helping.
Just amazing. I get chills, good chills, watching this.
I remember reading that Thor Heyerdahl (the man in charge of the Kon Tiki expedition) also believed that Odin was a man who had traveled to Scandinavia. Though he doesn’t seem to go quite as far back in time. Here is a short article on it: http://www.scotsman.com/news/world/heyerdahl-declares-odin-no-myth-1-587236
And there was a book written on the subject: https://www.amazon.com/Heyerdahls-Ancient-between-Azerbaijan-Scandinavia/dp/8270997382
Thanks Ann Linn, that is very interesting. I find Thor Heyerdahl’s work excellent. It certainly lends credence to the theory that Odin was an Indo-European deity.
What is interesting is that the Indo-Europeans had a tradition of divine kingship (this is very clear in Hindu histories for example). In the old divine kings lists of ancient Egypt, the names of kings are repeated multiple times – like the name of Horus for example. It’s almost impossible it could have been the same person, so there must have been a tradition of kings taking the name of a deity. This continued in Dynastic Egypt, where the pharaohs would name themselves after the god of the sun, incorporating the words Ra, Amun or Aten into their names, just like TutenkAMUN.
Likewise, in South America, the king would often be called Viracocha, although they were long after Viracocha’s time.
So the fact that there was an Indo-European king called Odin may indicate that Odin’s name was taken by kings as a kind of divine epithet.
Oh yes, that’s an interesting discovery, Lara. I wonder if the first kings were spiritual beings? Or if the idea of kings came much later.
Epic is certainly the word that resounds from this video and transcript! The amount of intelligent research and gathering of information presented here is both astounding and wonderful. There is so much information packed into these videos, it seems that other offshoot videos could also be made focusing on just a point or two!
Thanks for creating this video Lara, there is much here to reflect upon.
Such an interesting subject, Lara! 😮
I must admit, I’ve been really intrigued with it since reading about the parallels of Viracocha, Votan, Wotan, Odin, Kukulkan, etc. in your book. The similarities are too striking to ignore.
Near the end if the video I all I could think about was what a tremendous work it would have been to travel and live like that over long periods of time, over such vast distances, stepping into total physical and social wilderness again and again for the sake of others — what these people (person?) did for the world in those remote times is really incredible and it’s amazing to think we have what we have today thanks to their work.
I know, it’s quite overwhelming to think about how far he or they would have traveled. This video has put Odin in a whole different light than the one I grew up with. He seems much kinder and caring.
Yes, these wisdom bringers and their helpers had immense courage.
For example, there are stories of Yosira/Osiris surrounding himself with warriors that acted essentially as bodyguards so that he could approach peoples safely in order to teach them.
In South America, Viracocha was traveling through the land when he was attacked by a band of natives. The oral history states that he fell to his knees and prayed, and a strike of lightning hit a hill nearby, causing it to burst into flames. The natives were then convinced of his power and venerated him instead. Yosira/Osiris performed similar miracles (which I’ll be talking about in an upcoming video).
Oral histories record that many of the warriors with him were killed in South America in defense. On top of that, the native people at the time had poisoned darts. And I can’t even imagine getting in a boat and crossing shark infested waters in the first place! They certainly had a “Jesus and the disciples” type courage and conviction.
Lara, the thing I can’t quite piece together is that it’s said that after the cyclical cataclysms there’s a new ‘golden age’, that’s more conducive to awakening. So then the idea that the people the wisdom bringer and sages go to teach being violent and barbaric doesn’t fit in my mind with this!?
And yes, the strength of these people really is incredible. The kind of courage that comes with immense conviction.
Hi Ella, It’s a good question. As I understand, the beginning of our current human age, which you could say, started around 9,500 BC, wasn’t “the” golden age. The golden age referred to in the great Hindu cycles of civilization called Yugas was much, much longer ago. There is a bit of conflicting information around it, and I personally haven’t looked into it very much, but it seems it would have been at least tens of thousands of years ago.
So if we were to take the world ages that the North American Indians and Aztecs record as correct, we are living in the age of the 5th sun. It seems then, that the golden age would have been the beginning of the 1st sun. With the beginning of each “sun age” I suspect it would start off much better than the previous age ended. So with the wisdom bringers going out, culture and civilizations would be built and focused around the religion of the sun. However, it seems like even though it is a nice start, it is on a lower and lower octave each time. I’m not sure if this makes sense, but it would be like looking at a graph that starts really high, and then slides down, then catastrophe and it goes up, but not as high as it started, and then slides down again, then catastrophe and it goes up, but even lower than the last high etc.
Currently, the human brain is shrinking rapidly, and this is well known to science. It has been shrinking for tens of thousands of years. We’re losing the parts of the brain that are to do with compassion, spiritual perceptions etc., and becoming more rooted in the mammalian brain. This is a process of devolution, and it will continue to the point where someone would have little interest or ability to understand spiritual things. As I understand, and there are allusions to this in some ancient texts, some ages start with humanoids that have had their genes enhanced by extraterrestrials. It doesn’t look like this happened after the last catastrophe though.
Thank you for setting that perspective Lara, it’s quite interesting and gives a picture of where are we now, which is not charming at all…
The revival of the religion of the sun now must be even more difficult but nevertheless is a great gift and opportunity to humanity
Thanks Lara,
What you say about the brain shrinking is a devastating fact, it makes things very difficult.
Thank you for elaborating. I have heard something like this before, and it’s a shock to think that things are deteriorating so much, and that with the trajectory being towards a lower octave it may mean that essences who yearn for the light might find themselves in even less conducive atmospheres than this one. Makes me realise there really is no time to waste.
That’s very interesting about the DNA! Incredible what help can be given and the possibilities within the cosmos!
Its incredible to think that the next ages could even get worse. Considering especially how difficult and disconnected spirituality is from the masses. And this is because of the shrinking brain? Or could it be a combination of the weight of egos and karma from this planet and humanity? I wonder if it would be possible to change this fate and be open to DNA assistance, or if this is just the way the cookie crumbles.
Like others have said, thank you Lara for that additional information and clarification.
So terrible to know that our brains are getting smaller and we are becoming more disconnected from our own essence.
Hi Lara, thanks for the great clarification. The way you described it made complete sense to me. Its clear there is no time to waste.
Thank you Lara for this clarification. I have suspected these ‘lowering octaves’ too, and it is a very sad thing, but I guess a part of nature too… :-(
What you said about people eventually losing any interest in spiritual runs the chills down my spine, as I can see this already happening now. Most people only have a fleeting interest, and even those who do have a serious interest struggle a lot to understand and apply the spiritual work properly.
It also struck me what you said about decreasing sense of compassion being a part of this too, how that is also a sign of degeneration. It inspires me to cultivate this virtue more, as well as kindness and forgiveness.
Thank you again for sharing.
This is really interesting Lara. I had always understood that the golden age occurred at the start of each “sun age”, but it really makes sense that as each age degenerates, the next sun age begins on a lower octave.
It’s interesting that many societies consider themselves to be so advanced today – if only they realised how people were in the far distant past – when their brains were much more capable of compassion and spiritual perceptions. How incredible must it have been to have lived during the golden age at the beginning of the Yuga.
This is nonetheless an inspiring article to cultivate and express as much of these virtues that we can today.
Thanks for the ‘Yosira/Osiris’ comment. I’ve been reading the Kolbrin and Yosira is mentioned a lot but I hadn’t connected the dots to Osiris.
Wow.
This is the real value of the videos presented here… the way the threads of seemingly unrelated texts and snippets of legends are rewoven into a whole is really amazing. That you make it seem so easy in hindsight is a testament to the obvious hard work you and Mark have put into gathering the information in the first place.
Thanks again.
By the way, I really like the music in the videos as well. Would you be able to share who the music belongs to?
thank you.
:)
Hi Paty, the music comes from stock music websites where people create music, and you pay to download it and use it in a project. There are different websites that provide stock music; it’s quite surprising how talented some of the artists are on there.
Thanks Lara,
I agree, the music is very good and really adds a great ambience to the videos.
Wow! that was an amazing video.
the similarities and links between these wisdom bringers from different parts of the world are truly remarkable. Like you say Lara, these similarities are just too many to ignore and brush of as mere coincidences. From the information presented in your video it appears that was a group of wise men that set out to teach humanity to live good lives and become children of the light/sun.
I am really so grateful for the all the work that has been carried out to bring this information to light; it just puts together so many pieces of our world history puzzle and allows it to make sense.
I am so enjoying this new information!
Thanks very much!
So much compelling evidence and so well put together Lara, thanks very much, this is a truly inspiring video you and the team have done. I was awestruck by the end by the enormity of it all!
Yes David, the conclusion at end of the video is indeed ‘awe’some. It almost makes your head spin just thinking about it all!!