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Comments and discussion on researching the ancient religion of the sun in different parts of the world.

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  1. Julian Kingman January 11, 2019 at 3:30 pm - Reply

    Complex solar alignments in Peru (and other places)

    We’ve been looking at various sites in and around Peru (and Bolivia, thanks to our solstice at lake Titicaca with Bogdan), and a couple incredible sites have come up that I had never heard of before. The thing that intrigues me most about them is that they’re not simple solar alignments, like stones lined up to the sunrise, or a gap through which the sun rays come through, but are incredibly complex, to the point of telling a story. Where to start?

    CHUSPIYOQ (“House of the Inca”)

    This is a little-known site a 1-2 hour walk up from Cusco, and is the first site that made me suspect there was more to look at than simple solar alignments. All around the area, one is impressed by strangely carved rocks, with large chunks taken out of them for no apparent reason. The slightly more famous “moon temple” is found a short walk south. At Chuspiyoq, there’s a very large rock outcropping with a large part carved out of the bottom. It’s probably 30 feet high, and 10-20 feet in either direction. Looking at it from a distance, it becomes apparent that it’s actually a large face; a very large face! It faces just north of the summer solstice sunrise, but makes me wonder how the face would look at the equinoxes, most likely partially illuminated (maybe 1/2?). The sun also would come through directly behind his head to the main temple area on the equinox sunset. Looking at the stone from above, there’s a part of the outcropping that looks like it could be a condor.

    KILLARUMIYOQ (means “the one with a moon stone”, according to wikipedia)

    The best example of a site telling a story is Quillarumiyoq (also Killarumiyoq). The complex’s alignments are primarily to the summer solstice sunrise.

    Temple to Pachamama
    Near the entrance is a cave, shaped exactly like the female sexual organ, with an altar inside, facing the sunrise direction. I should note that the stones are partly natural, and partly shaped and carved (very finely), and the altar and sides of the cave are carved very finely out of the bedrock. Our guide said it was for honoring pachamama (mother earth). It felt like a very powerful spot, and clearly an altar to the divine mother, as well as the birth of the spiritual (sun). There are also some petroglyphs on the wall, but they could be recent (faces and such)

    Heart rock
    The most striking interplay of light, which to me tells a story (which I don’t quite understand), is on a giant heart-shaped stone. The stone is for the most part natural, but the left side was carefully cut off to make it more heart-shaped, it spans probably 20 feet in every direction (huge!). In the middle of the heart, is what people refer to as a “solar calendar”, it’s a semi-circular carving with 7 steps on the border (3 on each side, one at the top). Before the heart, is a large porous rock outcropping. Standing on the rock at the summer solstice, the rising sun casts one’s shadow such that the shadow of the head is exactly in the semi-circular carving, appearing almost like an aura, or as my wife pointed out, like a sunrise. The taxi driver said it’s the heart of Pachamama, but I’m not sure…

    Site layout
    Also interesting is the use of a water canal, that perfectly bisects one of the temple areas. There’s also a ceremonial clearing higher up in the complex, and another large rock outcropping with a few carved faces, which to my eyes looks like a giant fish from one perspective, and possibly a guinea pig from another.

    Q’ENCO

    Although I haven’t seen this in person yet, there’s a funny-looking stone that at the summer solstice casts a shadow resembling a puma, and at the same time the eyes appear to illuminate with the rays of the sun. The puma represents the christ in the Andean trinity (with the serpent as mother and condor as father).

    Other sites that tell stories:

    ISLA DEL SOL (in Bolivia, island of the sun)
    We performed our summer solstice ceremony on Isla del Sol, at an unmarked location, an elevated rectangular platform on a peninsula. Because of the alignments with the landscape, I suspect that it was at one point a place for celebrating the summer solstice sunrise and sunset. On one side, at sunrise, the sun rises directly over the end of a peninsula, over the mountains in the distance. On the other side, it sets directly into a large mountain, near Roca Sagrada. To me (and a couple others who were able to see it), it was a very moving site, and perfectly symbolized the time of the summer solstice, the ascension, as the sun disappeared into a mountain (incidentally, a smaller mountain was in front of it, and on the peninsula a mountain-shaped rock was in a prominent position, making it the 3rd mountain).

    THE GRAND CANYON (US)

    I went into the grand canyon on a mission to find a stone circle my dad said he had found there many years before. Although I didn’t find the circle he described, in the place he described, I found an astonishing view. The two sides of the canyon came together forming a sacred chalice, almost perfectly… Exactly in the middle, a giant butte stuck up, its tip just over the north canyon wall, giving me the impression of a phallus. In addition, the tip was white (they call it the “buddha temple”, I think), and I’d imagine at sunrise, the first thing you’d see is that tip illuminated. The place I found this alignment was also very close to the “indian village”, a place that had been settled since for a long time, and directly on the main trail (called “bright angel trail”.

    CHACO CANYON (US)

    At Chaco Canyon, there’s an equinox alignment at Casa Rinconada. We got there the day after the equinox, and were still able to see it. Two doors line up, just outside a Kiva, in such a way that at the equinox sunrise, it rises through the two doors, and then disappears into a cliff face, also aligned with the doors. The thing that’s really magnificent, is that if you watched it every day, at the time of the spring equinox you would have the impression that the sun comes out of the cliff face (representing darkness?), and fully into the doorway, and at the time of the autumn equinox it would gradually descend into the cliff face, becoming dark just a few days after the equinox.

    My overall impression is that these sites can “speak” in a deeply symbolic way, a way that is well known for sites like Chichenitza, but less known or unknown at others. I’ve literally been praying to the stones of Cusco to speak to me, wishing they could, and it’s beginning to seem like they are! It’s very exciting. This also makes me want to visit many other sites with a new eye, such as Ollantaytambo, where there are 3 solar alignments, one of which may include the illumination of the “face of Wiracocha” (which Lara describes and has a picture of in the book), Machu Picchu, where the mountains themselves may have actually been intentionally carved with the resemblance of a face (known as the “sleeping inca”), and other lesser known sites.

    • Michael January 14, 2019 at 3:26 pm - Reply

      Thanks for sharing the significance of these sacred sites Julian. It looks like you’ve encountered some amazing finds! I wish you continued success in finding new discoveries in your research.

    • Bogdan January 14, 2019 at 11:14 pm - Reply

      Hey Julian,

      Thank for this interesting outlay of different sites. They all sound very interesting and mystical and worth a visit. I found Killarumiyoq quite fascinating, especially with its 7 stepped facets and it being either a solar or lunar calendar. The strange thing is that that it is carved out of a giant rock with seems to be cracked and left in a place with no typical relation to the other rocks/or site. I’m curious if you have seen any connection with the other rocks and stonework in the vicinity. Nice description of the other sites 🙂

      • Julian January 15, 2019 at 12:53 pm - Reply

        I’m skeptical that the stone is a calendar… I know that’s what people say about it, but it seems much more symbolic to me (for instance it could represent the 7 golden bodies, or the 7 rays of creation). The rock that it’s carved out of is the one that I mentioned is shaped like a heart, which is very clear if you stand back a distance. In support of this, the crack is in the right place to represent the connection to the right atrium, and a smaller crack to the right is about where the coronary artery should be, making it very anatomically accurate. It seems like whoever built and shaped it, whatever culture it was, they made use of every feature of the natural rocks, just carving where necessary to enhance or fix the image.

  2. Bogdan December 30, 2018 at 6:32 pm - Reply

    Hello everyone,

    I hope you had a great Solstice!

    While I was investigating some possible colonies or Kingdoms of Atlantis in Bolivia, I stumbled upon this extremely interesting presentation of a researcher, who may have connected the dots for the possible capital of Atlantis or one of its main Kingdoms at the Richat structure (Eye of Africa). Besides that this place is incredibly beautiful and looks like the Absolute, it has an air of mystery over it.

    This researcher has some very compelling proof, connecting ancient texts and maps of Solon, Herodotus and Plato to actual present day finds of the site. As you might know, Atlantis was an empire of 10 kingdoms with several colonies and many outposts and islands, with Egypt being just one of the colonies of Atlantis. Some sites in Bolivia possibly being trading posts, harbours or colonies.

    I’m posting this, because it has helped my research tremendously to connect my findings to the massive influence Atlantis had in the world, which also prompted me to re-evaluate my research and connect my research to other parts of the world. Maybe it could help yours too.

    It is comprised of 3 short ~20 min. movies:

    1st movie: Placing a possible location for the capital of Atlantis at the Richat structure in Mauritania, where descriptions of Plato are matched my current day observations of the site
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDoM4BmoDQM

    2nd movie: Explanation for its location and height and a very good description of the capital and empire of Atlantis
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyV8TUlV3Ds

    3rd movie: Very strong evidence placing the capital or one of its important outposts/Kingdoms at the Richat structure based on the local Mauri/ Maghreb people (where the name Mauritania comes from), an ancient map of Herodotus depicting the land of the ‘Atlantes’ (people of Atlantis) and the accounts of Plato and the Mauri themselves to be closely connected to Atlantis and having Atlas as the first king of Mauritania. The video also includes evidence of possible square and triangular structures in the eye of the Richat structure where the nobility and priests are said to have been living – in the eye of Atlantis
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5kEzxOb-3c

    If you like, type this -> 7CHC4JFG+4P <- into Google maps or Google earth…does anybody know what this is??

    • Lucia December 31, 2018 at 9:30 pm - Reply

      Hi Bogdan,

      Thank you for sharing! I have came across some videos of this researcher before, and they seem to be quite well done. The theory he proposes about the possible location of the Atlantis (or its part maybe?) sounds compelling I must say, and really seems to match the Plato’s description. That map from Herodotus is quite mind-boggling as well! So many questions out-there that need answers… Regarding the mysterious square structure that you also shared the direct link to, I agree with the researcher that it does look like a possible plan of a building. Otherwise not sure what natural processes could create such a shape. It must have been something really massive to have survived till now.

      The whole Richat structure also reminds me of the Russian Arkaim, even though that one didn’t seem to have any water involved (as far as we know). I agree it looks really beautiful, with those mountains on the North enveloping it, like a gigantic eyelid. 🙂

      • Bogdan January 14, 2019 at 11:03 pm - Reply

        Hey Lucia,

        Thank you for your comment. I agree that the Richat looks like Arkaim and shares this strong resemblance of the three rings. It’s almost like the fundamental blueprint is the same, but only different due to probably the difference in local culture, features and materials of the surroundings, climate and possibly different time frames. I’m really curious what the upcoming time will bring of people going to the Richat and taking pictures and maybe even samples. It wouldn’t surprise me that maybe a few of those 3,5 million viewers are heading there right now. I just had to pause for one second and appreciate the vast amount of people that have seen this…3,5 million views in the first video…talking about changing some paradigms on a vast scale! 🙂 I’m sure Jimmy (the researcher) will pursue this further so it’s interesting what more info will come out of this!

    • Karim December 31, 2018 at 11:38 pm - Reply

      Mind Blown?!!

      That’s a pretty incredible hypothesis to consider! It might very well be true, and information put together like that, as well as keeping in mind what I read previously from the Ancient Religion of the Sun book, makes me see the Atlantis of our past as something even more real and plausible, amazing!

      And what a beautiful eye/concentric rings formation…. Incorporating potent sacred geometry like that, be it natural, man-made or a combination. I would use a site like that :-), utilising higher principles and also the organisational structure (with a spiritual/religious centre etc.). Also from the data on previously occurring rivers, possible sea levels and surrounding landscape it also seems like a wonderful place for a civilisation where seafaring and sailing played such a prominent part, and how this connected it to the greater ‘continent’ of Atlantis.

      Very exciting. I watched the three videos, where he re-presents that information he learned mainly from the ‘Visiting Atlantis’ documentary, and there is some great possible evidence that he shares.

      Thanks so much for sharing this find Bogdan. Very invigorating and it’s great to see people like him, and many others around the world, looking into these things as well. It does certainly make it feel like (as he himself also says: “People are slowly starting to wake up …and I am going to accelerate it.”) that now there’s something in the air, an invisible wave, where information and revelations of our ancient past are starting to come together, initiated by higher help at this specific time, and being brought into manifestation on earth through people uncovering it.

      It also made me think that with this knowledge (on ancient civilisations, the age of humanity, Atlantis etc.,) becoming (hopefully!) more well known in society at large and might lead to a historical paradigm shift, how important it is for the spiritual aspect of it, at its core, to have its proper place in that information and be represented. Such as is uncovered and explained in the Path of the Spiritual Sun book and also mentioned in Lara’s work. I hope the people with a spiritual understanding could have a position within that ‘movement’ occurring of the pieces of our past coming together to paint a new picture, as then those information revelations of the past could serve an actual purpose to people today. (Which I think the purpose of this wave is all about really.)

      But back to the topic of Atlantis I happen to also see someone commenting on the Sakro Sawel Youtube channel suggesting a video to be made dedicated specifically to Atlantis. That seems like a possible nice suggestion, as I know from Lara’s book that she’s already put together information comparing similarities of accounts and evidence.

      But the topic is very inspiring and I feel similar to what, I believe, you’re saying Bogdan. That sometimes when we learn of a new perspective it can help change our understanding and view of the pieces of the puzzle we were looking at already and see them in a new and clearer context.

      Looking forward to seeing Atlantis ‘resurface’ even more :-D!

      • Bogdan January 14, 2019 at 11:16 pm - Reply

        Hey Karim,

        I fully agree with you: there’s – as you put it – a wave of uncovering knowledge in the air and that people are waking up.

        The last period of research, I have been very baffled to see that millions of people watch videos of Graham Hancock, Randall Carlson, Bright Insight, megalithomania uk, Brien Forster and many, many others who talk about an Ancient Civilisation who possessed very advanced technology, aligning sites to the cardinal points of the Path of the Sun and leaving behind clues (Gobekli Tepe) for us to decipher and learn from. Its just amazing how many people are interested in this and maybe have a sense that the current historic paradigm is slowly crumbling into rubble.

        I’m truly thankful for the missing esoteric component that Mark and Lara have shared with the world, for which – finally – all this knowledge that millions of people watch, has a proper context, which is still missing in the mainstream. There is also much evidence that this paramount context (The ancient Religion and Civilisation of the Sun), which we need to understand to understand all these puzzle pieces, seems to be deliberately diluted, distorted and confused so people are kept in the dark.

        I hope the picture that Lara is painting, could reach more people worldwide, to provide them the deciphering key to understand this vast tapestry of information on the net AND maybe prompt them to DO something about it on a causal level.

    • Martin January 2, 2019 at 2:43 am - Reply

      Awesome Bogdan!

      Thanks so much.

    • Michael January 2, 2019 at 2:31 pm - Reply

      Thanks for sharing those finds Bogdan! It looks like there’s some very good info there, which is worth checking out.

    • Ella January 9, 2019 at 7:40 pm - Reply

      This presentation on Atlantis has to be the most compelling and thorough I’ve seen! Admittedly I haven’t sought this evidence out much, probably because its existence has always fitted in with my world-view, but I can appreciate that for many people it is pseudo-history, and partly because they simply don’t have access to thought provoking and well-researched information like this. (Which is not taking away their responsibility to look deeper that the veneer of the cultural narrative!) I had also never heard of this incredible Eye in Africa!

      Wikipedia really seems to be one of the main culprits for maintaining this intellectual dominance. My whole evaluation of Wikipedia has been slowly changing to to see it as one of the main forces for mind-control and the promotion of the status quo, and the fact that it so clearly shut down any open discussion on Atlantis and the Eye is the final nail in its coffin for me!

      This presentation also helped me to appreciate the scale, beauty and sophistication of Atlantis like never before. Whether the location of Atlantis is above or below water now, I think there’s a huge value in people being exposed to presentations like this with such detailed descriptions of the lost city, with the real historical evidence and scientific support for its existence. Atlantis is such a well know ‘modern myth’, it’s like a seed of possibility in our collective mind that can sow doubt and give rise to a new understanding, with that I think it’s one of the key parts of the story of the Lost Civilization of the Sun to promote a reevaluation of. If more and more people can really question this modern myth, it opens the flood gates for the destruction of an old way of thinking and the rebuilding of something new, something guided by truth.

      Thanks Bogdan!

      • Martin January 10, 2019 at 5:19 am - Reply

        Hello Ella,

        It’s a pleasure to read your thoughts on Wikipedia 🙂

        The eye of Africa is an interesting find. The Aborigines in Australia often use a symbol that looks just like it in their art and of course the symbol is well known in Spiritual circles. However the Aborigines say that it means ‘water hole’ and sometimes ‘meeting place’; which is along the lines of what is being presented here ie, Atlantis was a meeting place with water.

        • Michael January 14, 2019 at 3:02 pm - Reply

          That’s interesting Martin. Thanks for sharing those connections.

      • Michael January 10, 2019 at 3:53 pm - Reply

        I agree Ella. It’s really good that people are bringing to light new evidence to support the existence of Atlantis, as well as other previously unknown discoveries, such as the Bosnian pyramids. At the same time, it’s a pity that mainstream science often continues to oppose new thinking, which is at odds with the scientific method of open investigation.

        I found the same issue with Wikipedia in relation to health care when looking up natural treatments for cancer. There are now many evidence-based natural cancer treatments around, backed by strong research from knowledgeable doctors, but the Wikipedia article seemed to dismiss everything outside the main conventional treatments of chemo and radiation as quackery, even though their long-term success rate isn’t that high statistically.

        Of course, with such serious health issues, everyone must make their own choice regarding the treatments they feel most comfortable with, but it’s a shame that there isn’t more room for evidence-based discussion that is inclusive of both mainstream and natural medicine.

        I saw a fitting quote from Galileo Galilei, who faced a lot of opposition from the orthodox church due to disputing the idea that the sun revolved around the earth: “In the sciences, the authority of thousands of opinions is not worth as much as one tiny spark of reason in an individual man.”

        • Martin January 14, 2019 at 12:30 pm - Reply

          Thanks for pointing out the cancer treatments on Wikipedia Michael; that’s very helpful.

      • Karim January 10, 2019 at 9:27 pm - Reply

        To many if you’d mention words like Atlantis, giants, or even extraterrestrials it can provoke this ‘instant reject’ reaction in people, as these things are taught to be outside of societies accepted beliefs. Sometimes it might unconducive to use those terms as they might conjure up an unhelpful image in someone’s mind than what you’re talking about. But I’ve also seen how as this information becomes more widespread people seem to open up, a few careful steps more, to it. I like your perspective though of making use of those words anyway due to them being known concepts, yet with information and evidence this turning the possible connotations right around! 🙂

        • Ella January 14, 2019 at 3:53 pm - Reply

          I’ve just been re-reading chapter one of Lara’s Ancient Religion of the Sun, and am again moved by how much historical evidence there is for Atlantis. Prior to reading this book and seeing the above mentioned documentaries I thought that the only mention of Atlantis was from Plato, and in general had heard it easily dismissed as his philosophical musings on a utopian existence or romantic past.
          But there’s so much more! Not only the corroboration of Plato’s description (which is far more detailed than I’d imagined) with facts about the Eye, but mention of Atlantis in the Kolbrin, the stories told in the murals at Edfu, Hindu accounts, matching accounts in the mysterious Stanzas of Dzyan. I personally now have the goal to mentally digest this information supporting Atlantis’ existence and to assimilate it in a way that I am able to share it. I realise that at the moment, despite being one of the minority who are open to an alternative history, I cannot very effectively verbalize and convey the powerful message of this advanced civilization that was mostly destroyed, yet provided the progenitors for our current age, and I feel it as a responsibility to be able to share this information should the chance arise!

    • john perez January 10, 2019 at 9:19 am - Reply

      Thanks for this information and videos Bogdan. Looking forward to videos.

    • Julian January 11, 2019 at 4:46 pm - Reply

      Hey Bogdan,

      I agree, it’s very compelling. It seems to match with nearby tribes and their oral histories, which makes it seem almost impossible that it’s anything else. It would be so cool to see it excavated, and would be a major blow to modern history if Atlantis was “officially” discovered…

      The thing that’s hard to imagine is how all of Africa rose that much in only 12,000 years. But it’s not unique, as there’s lake titicaca, which as we know is partly salinated, probably from the ocean, and that’s at 4,000m above sea level. I’m finding local traditions that speak of the ocean coming up to the tops of the mountains peaks, as well, near Llipa, which is at about 3,100m. So there is at least evidence of odd things we wouldn’t think possible.

      • Michael January 14, 2019 at 3:07 pm - Reply

        Interesting finds Julian. Thanks for sharing those!

  3. Karim December 15, 2018 at 12:02 am - Reply

    Dolmen in Korea— a brief look.

    Did you know that 40-50% of the world’s dolmen are in Korea, and that there they’re found in the greatest density and variety? Numbering an estimated 15.000-100.000! megaliths on the peninsula.
    Of the many dolmen sites three areas have together been assigned as a UNESCO world heritage site in 2000. (source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gochang,_Hwasun_and_Ganghwa_Dolmen_Sites“>source) These are the Gochang, Hwasun and Ganghwa Dolmen sites.

    Photos of these sites to get an impression.
    Gochang: (1. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Gochang_Dolmens?uselang=de#/media/File:Gochang_Dolmen_Sites_-_2.JPG) (2. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c8/Gochang_Dolmens_IMG_20160930_115735.jpg) (3. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c1/Korea-Gwangju-Gochang_Dolmens_Gochang_Dolmens_5325-06.JPG)
    Hwasun: (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/19/Hwasun_Dolmen_IMG_20161001_135311.jpg)
    Ganghwa (on an island): (1.https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/09/GMJ_0160.jpg) (2. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/11/GMJ_0153.jpg) (3. https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/21/Dolmen_Ganghwa_Island.JPG ) (all photos from Wikimedia.)
    And here’s a little impressive map of sites around the Korean peninsula. (https://media.springernature.com/original/springer-static/image/chp:10.1007/978-94-007-3934-5_8772-2/MediaObjects/86565_0_En_8772-2_Fig1_HTML.gif“) (including pyramids as well apparently.)

    Types. In Korean language dolmen are known as koindol (pronounced ‘qu-een dool’) which means supported stones. (Image of four types: http://img.arirang.co.kr/A_UpFile/News_Image/201609/N160912231545B.jpg) They’re classified into a few standard forms; the table type (two uprights with a horizontal capstone), the go-table type (large capstone on four foot stones), the stone-covered type (like a boulder over a grave), the hybrid type (various mixtures of elements of the three main types.)

    The capstones at Gochang, among which is the world’s largest dolmen, range from 1-5.8m in length and weigh 10 to 300 tonnes (that’s 300.000 kilo’s!, roughly the weight of 4500 people.) At Ganghwa there’s one ‘table-top’ capstone 7 meters in length.

    Conventionally“It is generally accepted that they were simply burial chambers, erected over the bodies or bones of deceased worthies.” (source: http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/977“) And that earth mounds (barrows) would have covered them, but these would gradually disappear as a result of weathering and animal activity.

    Finds. Under the stones bronze goods such as daggers, swords and mirrors are often found. Other items include a type of bell or rattle (image link: https://postimg.cc/7J6FdD7p) which features solar imagery. Here another disc-like object with sun motif. (image: http://cfile226.uf.daum.net/image/0176723750E97951037E0D)

    Dating. The dolmen have been dated from around 1500BC to 300BC. However some have mentioned dates as far back as 3000BC, and certainly this type of monument is part of: “The global prehistoric technological and social phenomenon that resulted in the appearance in the 2nd and 3rd millennia BCE of funerary and ritual monuments constructed of large stones (the “Megalithic Culture”)….” (source: http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/977). Interestingly they appear connected to the spread of agriculture as well: “Dolmens are found throughout the Korean peninsula but are far more common in areas where rice agriculture was practiced.” (source: https://link.springer.com/referenceworkentry/10.1007/978-94-007-3934-5_8772-2).

    Preservation/destruction. Having been designated a UNESCO site makes them due to be properly protected and managed, which is great, as well as being made accessible for visits.
    A downside is that: “Thirty years ago, there were some 80,000 dolmens and standing stones identified around the country. Now over 60 percent of them have been destroyed due to land development, construction and public ignorance of their values, ~Yoo In-hak, WMA president, …”
    and “There used to be a string of dolmens, stretching 2 km over low hills in the region, until the land was converted into farmland and rice paddies. Only five of them remain now.”
    He also mentions a nice notion about Megalithic culture: “…originating from when the world had no borders.” (https://stonepages.com/news/archives/000023.html).

    Along with the major questions of course (for example: what made them originate there, was their idea brought from over the sea? as one of the major hypothesises suggests) these are some random questions I personally had:
    – The Korean landscape features these beautiful hills and the dolmen are situated at them, why is this?
    – The go-table type, with its huge stone on top of smaller foot stones, makes an interesting imposing impression. (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c8/Gochang_Dolmens_IMG_20160930_115735.jpg/1280px-Gochang_Dolmens_IMG_20160930_115735.jpg) Why not just put it on the ground? Is there a reason (energetic or ideological?) for this style of construction.
    – The yellow sea which borders these lands of dolmen used to be full of many types of baleen whales. Ancient petroglyphs (like the Bangudae Petroglyphs, http://en.academic.ru/dic.nsf/enwiki/2957775) depicting them can also be found in Korea, some say dating to 6000BC. (Image: http://en.academic.ru/pictures/enwiki/66/Bangudae_Petroglyphs.jpg) Did these majestic animals hold a sacred connection to the local dolmen building people?

    Spread of dolmen worldwide.
    “The question naturally arises, how did megalithic ideology move across space and time?” (Like a person here puts: https://www.worldhistory.biz/prehistory/90116-coda-asian-megaliths.html)
    – Dolmen can be found just about all around the world! And the most general type of dolmen with a horizontal stone slab on top of two upright stones can be found “… in Iceland, Scotland, England, North Germany, France, Spain, Scandinavia, Denmark, Holland, Corsica, Sardinia, Apulia, Sicily, Malta, North Africa, Morocco, Tripoli, Egypt, Syria, Palestine, Bulgaria, Crimea, Caucasus, Iran, India, Korea.” (source: https://www.ancient.eu/dolmen/)
    – Link with nice timeline of construction of some famous Megalithic sites. (http://www.visual-arts-cork.com/prehistoric/megaliths.htm#chronology)

    There’s the question and linking up that can potentially be done between the ‘megalithic culture’ and how it connects to the religion of the sun (are they one and the same? a part or branch of it? Of course there are some with solar alignments, others with sun motifs finds and again some with connecting ideological symbolism. etc.)

    A concluding point.
    I felt like looking into these sites in Korea a little, this however is only a very brief general intro. But I do feel that possibly there is a ‘something‘ there. A piece of information, an element of specific knowledge, which can add its part to the bigger picture of knowledge of the ancient religion/civilisation of the sun. Haven’t figured out exactly what that possible something is, but until that time— perhaps the mere fact of the existence of such a huge amount of dolmen in Korea, so similar to dolmen prevalent in many many places around the world!, demonstrates just so clearly the connectedness of ‘a knowledge’ that was spread globally.

    • Martin December 15, 2018 at 3:37 am - Reply

      Thanks for that introduction Karim; it’s greatly appreciated.

      The rock art in the Bangudae Petroglyphs looks strikingly similar to a lot of rock art in Australia from Aboriginal culture.

    • Craig December 16, 2018 at 5:52 am - Reply

      Now very nice research Karim — well done! Thanks for sharing

    • Michael December 27, 2018 at 3:20 pm - Reply

      Thanks very much Karim for sharing all that useful info on dolmens. It’s amazing that 40-50% of the world’s dolmens can be found in Korea. I had never really associated Korea with being a land of many sacred sites, so it came as a big surprise to me!

      It’s great to learn this new information and you raised some good questions too – such as why such efforts were made to contruct the “Go table” style dolmens on raised pillars, rather than simply having them lying flat. Given the weight of the main slabs used, there must have been other significant reasons, other than simply using them as burial stones.

      It’s very inspiring to learn about how widespread The Religion of the Sun really was throughout the world. The solar symbols you found are very relevant. There’s so much to learn about our past, as well as about ourselves!

    • Ella January 1, 2019 at 4:28 pm - Reply

      I had no idea there was even one dolmen in Korea, let alone it being home to around half of the world’s dolmen population! One thing I love about the process of learning about the ancient religion of the sun is how it works to create a sense of kinship between myself and the peoples of far flung places. Thanks for bringing this to light!

  4. Mike December 10, 2018 at 3:57 am - Reply

    I’m not sure if anyone has come across this yet (I didn’t find on this page) but this video came up in my YouTube feed today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=asJBGJUZK9s titled “FILM: Demise of the Ice-Age Civilization (Pt. 1 & 2) – A conversation with Robert Schoch”

    It’s an interview with Dr Robert Schoch. He’s a professor of geology and geophysics at Boston University. He is a big proponent of there being an antediluvian civilization present at the end of the last ice age. There’s a lot of discussion there about dating the Sphinx and Pyramids, Gobleki Tepe, etc.

    I’ve only gotten through the first hour so far (it’s 3 hours long) but in addition to the ideas and questions he brings up, I think it sheds some light on proper academic research, for those who may not come from a culture or background of academia. He’s very honest about how he assesses other work/theories, describes the politics and the resistance of the academic community to change, and really makes a call to action to thoroughly scrutinize ideas, lest the good be lost among all the rubbish ideas.

    He is also a clear example of how evidence can change people’s minds. He used to firmly believe the Sphinx was carved around 2500 BC… until he saw it for himself and tried to explain the erosion with that sort of mindset… then he was convinced otherwise.

    • Michael December 11, 2018 at 4:18 pm - Reply

      Thanks very much for sharing that Mike. Robert Schoch sounds like an open-minded and knowledgeable guy. It’s good that he was able to change his previous mindset in light of new evidence. I wish that more in the scientific, academic and even religious or spiritual communities were able to do the same.

    • Daniel Languiller December 12, 2018 at 6:59 am - Reply

      Very cool Mike, I’ve come across Schoch also, he’s in the same circles with West, Temple, Hancock, etc. He has a pretty decent Joe Rogan episode also, he’s basically lecturing for the whole time with prepared slides.

  5. Nathan December 9, 2018 at 7:43 pm - Reply

    Came across this earlier on. It’s a list of sites in Ireland that are aligned to the Winter Solstice.

    https://megalithicarchaeoastronomy.blogspot.com/p/8_26.html?m=1&fbclid=IwAR1VAI19R2v2a6hcGdYtcObK_bzVuht4_NxXkaPNNUETv0s3xntESfUbOZ4

  6. Daniel Languiller December 7, 2018 at 3:57 am - Reply

    So I’ve been watching the new Magical Egypt series and wanted to share some interesting things they spoke about.

    One thing that was mentioned that is not new, was that Michaelangelo’s “The Creation of Adam”(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Creation_of_Adam) on the roof of the Sistine Chapel, specifically the part depiciting “God”, is actually an accurate approximation of the human brain structure. (This was first mentioned, at least in modern times by Frank Lynn Meshberger, 1990).
    The older male figure sweeps through the larger “brain” area (represented by the red cloth area), in a way similar to how the brain stem and connected structures would sweep through a physical brain. The “son” in the holy trinity depicted inside the brain is a young male figure which could repesent the cerebellum area of the brain (this area is associated with muscular coordination and basic instincts, sometimes referred to as the “reptile brain”, this could be making reference to the basic physical existance we have).
    The pineal gland appears to “rise up” out of the cerebellum in our physical anatomy. In the Creation of Adam there is an area inbetween God, Sophia, and the son, that is triangular in nature and perhaps references spiritual awakening when the holy trinity comes together.
    The pineal gland is associated with the Eye of Ra from Egyptian (and obviously many others have “third eye” references), and the iconic way it was depicted in ancient Egypt also seems to map our the physical anatomy of that area of the brain.
    A discovery a researcher at Magical Egypt made was to associated certain divine mother/female figures with the area associated with the brain stem. Especially statues like the Artemis Ephesia (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Artemis_Ephesia,_from_the_Pantanello%3F_at_Hadrian%27s_Villa,_Vatican_Museums_(12010003225).jpg).
    This statue has odd proportions, and more simplistic academic interpretations pointed to the exaggerated features as being implemented to accentuate the female fertility. However the area of the bust that protrudes matches with the “pons” area of the brain stem. Even the way the statue has her hands held out, mimics the way that the trigeminal nerves of the brain stems look when cut away from the brain. This area of the brain stem is connected directly to the cerebellum and the pineal gland (both perhaps associated with the “son”).
    Considering this I couldn’t help but think of Michealangelo’s La Pieta statue. With the female Mary-type figure, holding the son/Christ in her hands. The pose of the hands of La Pieta even resemble those in the Artemis Ephesia. In a way, La Pieta could mimic our physical brain anatomy, with the mother (brain stem), holding up the son (cerebellum/pineal gland). Extending that, the mother and son both reside in the larger realm of the God/father (brain structure as a whole) from The Creation of Adam.
    Lara often speaks about “as above, so below”, it was very interesting to me that even in our crude physical bodies we may have a representation of higher spiritual things. The spiritual journey of the son (pineal) guided by the mother (brain stem), to live inside the realm of the father (brain structure as a totality).

  7. Michael November 21, 2018 at 3:29 pm - Reply

    I thought I’d share some links to an interesting archaeoastronomical website, on which a researcher has used open source software in order to determine the alignment of ancient stone circles with astronomical phenomena, such as the solstices.

    This first link goes to a page of the website showing the various blog posts made on the topic:
    http://sherrytowers.com/category/archaeoastronomy/
    The second link is for a post analysing the likelihood of whether a particular British site has solar or other astronomical alignments. The site in question is a stone circle called The Merry Maidens, which is situated in the south-west of England, a few hours away by car from Stonehenge:
    http://sherrytowers.com/2014/04/14/archeoastronomy-was-the-merry-maidens-site-an-astronomical-observatory/

    The interesting conclusion is that The Merry Maidens was indeed intended as a solar observatory, with a greater than 95% certainty that the alignment to the winter solstice sunrise was not due to chance.

    Some of the calculations are a little too technical for me, but for those with a background in maths, physics or coding, the open source software should be a very useful tool in working out the likelihood of solar alignments to other sacred sites in a way that can indicate the statistical probability that these alignments were intentional and not simply random occurrences.

    • Bogdan November 22, 2018 at 8:48 pm - Reply

      Hey Michael,

      Thank you very much for the useful links to Archeoastronomy. I checked it out and it seems a good starting point to get into calculating the sacred sites! Fascinating stuff!

    • Martin November 23, 2018 at 1:28 am - Reply

      There’s quite a bit to sift through there Michael, thanks for passing it on.

      • Michael November 25, 2018 at 11:26 am - Reply

        You’re welcome Bogdan and Martin; I hope it will prove to be a useful tool.

    • Craig November 24, 2018 at 10:44 am - Reply

      Years ago I visited many sites in the South & Western parts of England (Salisbury, Corwall & Devon) and the Merry maidens, was one of the ones I visited. It’s great to see it mentioned here Michael.

      I haven’t gone into detail into the mathematical approach to the alignments, but there’s little reason to question it (because the code references sources of ideas & implementations). I understand the tools used and the approach taken. They do it in a way that’s scientifically exacting, whereas I’d probably go hunting for the answers I was looking for (ie. solar alignments), whereas theirs can also ‘pick up’ on other unusual alignments.

      In a way, it’s the complex version of what https://suncalc.net does (which is a bit broken at the moment, due to google changing their terms and conditions on usage of maps: “Google [maps] is raising its prices by more than 1,400%”)

      • Michael November 25, 2018 at 11:34 am - Reply

        It’s really good you were able to visit those English sites first hand Craig, including The Merry Maidens. It sounds a very interesting place to visit and I’d love to also see it for myself.

        I like the software tools used to work out the alignments, as they also factor in the possibility that the alignments were just due to chance, but still come up with a high statistical probability that the alignments are in fact intentional.

        Thanks for sharing the Suncalc site, which I hadn’t previously heard of. I couldn’t access it at the moment, but hopefully they may be able to get it up and working again.

    • Mike December 4, 2018 at 4:47 am - Reply

      Thanks for sharing this, Michael. That second link is really interesting. I skimmed through it and found the math and programming to be well-written, but I’m not sure I understand the problem well enough to see why they are used in that particular way. For example, why align 3 stones? Why not align a single stone with an opening between two others? I’d like to spend some more time reading that article as it seems very promising… who knows, maybe this technique could be used for all ancient sites to determine their alignments? Her approach seems quite sound and scientifically rigorous, which I really like.

      • Craig December 8, 2018 at 8:15 am - Reply

        Yes, that was a glaring ‘weirdness’ for me too. But, some circles do seem to have marker stones that are singular, so perhaps its the main reason they do it that way. I agree though that when there’s two stones, or some sort of avenue (like at Avebury, for example), then clearly the alignment is in the middle.

      • Michael December 11, 2018 at 4:32 pm - Reply

        Thanks Mike and Craig for those points. I just re-read the article in the second link and my understanding is that the researcher was approaching the analysis from a null hypothesis perspective. So rather than setting out to prove that there are alignments to signficant astronomical phenomena, she set up the program to assume that any alignments are for another purpose, or are simply random.

        I’m certainly no expert in maths or coding though, as although I did some stats at university, it’s not my field of expertise at all. I’d be interested to hear more about your take on the analytical approach used, as I think you could both give a more informed perspective on it.

  8. Karim November 19, 2018 at 11:14 pm - Reply

    On interpreting Myths, some thoughts.

    One thing that occurred to me some while ago was how much interpreting myths/oral histories resembled studying and interpreting our dreams. Often a dream contains; 1. information of real events that will happen (the next day for example), 2. while simultaneously giving aspects that have a symbolic meaning (the real meaning to be correctly interpreted and not taken literally.) 3. Then there’s our own subconscious sort of instinctively reacting to the given scenes, adding our own manifested reactions. 4. Plenty of times, after having woken up and moved around a bit, we don’t remember all parts of the dream anymore.
    This mixed content, the dream, is for us to then interpret correctly.

    What I saw when reading some myths/legends, like those recounted by D.G. Brinton in ‘American Hero Myths’, is that many carry multiple layers of meaning. A good myth might include the symbolic description of the principles of creation or part of the story of the path of the spiritual son, while at the same time also mentioning events that really happened 1. It seems that in the past some historians took quite a literal view and were looking for the hidden cities, graves of gods etc. in archaeologically. 2. On the other side of the spectrum there’s also a trend to take everything in a myth/oral history exclusively in the theological/spiritual allegorical sense. (Then there are also those who see all of it as fantasy made up in the past btw, ‘just dreams’) 3. Many myths and tales have over time unfortunately been altered and the details obscured (and nonsense added), just like our our subconscious blurs the dream scenarios we’re given. 4. Many myths reach us is in a fragmented state, with parts forgotten or lost.

    Anyway what I feel is that it takes a certain wisdom to interpret myth correctly, placing the aspects in the right categories.
    It’s been exciting to consider for example, based on Lara’s insights, that some aspects I would normally have considered symbolical only actually give historical information! It makes you look at things in a new light. (like the wisdom bringers being real physical people, poetic doomsday descriptions possibly referring to geological and natural events, and heavenly cities having been real places etc.)
    What is also highly and extraordinarily important in my opinion is to explain to people that the spiritual references in ancient myths and texts (even though given symbolically) refer to real things, divine things that really exist in other dimenions, spiritual things a person can experience and achieve within. I think the Path of the Spiritual Sun book is a good source and key in explaining this, and gives a unique vantage point for us to go into and decipher material.

    Maybe other people have also encountered insights when dealing with myth/legend/symbolic texts and have some tips? Interesting as well that what can initially be experienced as annoying (like not understanding what our dreams mean ;- ) ) can come to be appreciated as wonderful due to it carrying multiple layers of message in one myth.

    • Michael November 21, 2018 at 2:16 pm - Reply

      You made some good points about interpreting myths Karim. It’s easy for their meaning to become obscured over time and I agree that The Path of the Spiritual Sun and The Ancient Religion of the Sun together give a unique perspective by putting these mythological and historical events into a coherent context.

  9. Lucia November 14, 2018 at 11:14 pm - Reply

    I just got my copy of Lara’s book yesterday, and have skimmed through it eagerly! It was especially interesting for me to see how much space is dedicated to the Caucasus region, as well as the Slavic god/wisdom-bringer Svarog and the Slavic culture.

    One thing that caught my eye in particular which I thought to share here is the mention of the temple built by Kitovras (a half-human, half-god creature similar to the Greek Centaur) in the ancient times. I have stumbled upon this info before as well, and have been wondering since where this temple would be exactly. Lara mentions in her book that it was supposedly built in Caucasus mountains, and the source I found also mentions Mt. Elbrus as a possible location. However, today I again looked at the description of the temple in the book of Kolyada, which goes like this (Google translation from Russian):

    “Kitovras and The Sun Temple

    And then Kitovras and Gamayun (the mythical bird) built a temple to Almighty on Alatyr mountain. A temple was built on seven versts, on eighty erected pillars – high up in the heavens. And around the temple, the Irian Garden was planted, it was fenced with silver back, and there were candles on all the pillars that they would not fade forever. There was that temple sixty cubits long, crosswise, twenty and thirty high. There were latticed windows in the temple, there were chased doors in the temple. Inside it was lined with gold and precious stones. Both twelve doors and twelve windows were decorated with stones: carnelian, topaz and emerald; chalcedon, sapphire and jasper; hyacinth, agate and amethyst; chrysolite, beryl and onyx. Stone birds and animals came to life on the walls of the temple, trees rose to the sky, grass curled, flowers bloomed.”

    What struck me now and also before about this temple is the specific mention of plenty of different precious stones that the temple was decorated with, and also that its location was the so-called Alatyr mountain. Then I found in Lara’s book another excerpt saying that the heavenly kingdom of gods after the great catastrophe was established by Svarog on “Riphean Mountains above the white Alatyr mountain”. Curious about where the “Riphean Mountains” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riphean_Mountains) could possibly be located, I found a reference that Pliny the Elder assigned them to the Ural Mountains, one of the world’s most ancient mountain ranges, being created around 300 million years ago. So I went to check some info on Ural Mountains, and I found that not only are these mountains a place of different mysterious ancient structures like Arkaim or megaliths, but they are famous for being one of the worlds richest reserve of different precious stones (http://justfunfacts.com/interesting-facts-about-the-ural-mountains/). The site funnily mentions that “As Russians in other regions gather mushrooms or berries, Uralians gather mineral specimens and gems.”

    Another excerpt from the Book of Kolyada further mentions, that there are actually several places that are considered a physical location of the mythical Alatyr Mountain, and mentions Mt. Elbrus and Ural Mountains among them. Regarding the location in the Urals, it says “in the Urals on the Irian mountains, from where the source of the sacred Ra-river takes its source”. And since the temple description mentions “Irian garden” planted around this temple, I thought it was just another clue to this temple being possibly built in Urals, together with a sheer practicality of having so many precious stones readily available there.

    Another source (http://blog.slavicsouvenirs.com/god-kitovras in a very bad English, probably translated by a machine from Russian) mentions that this temple was possibly built around 20 000 years BC, which would mean that it was built during the last ice-age, before the flood. It also says that it was re-built many times after being destroyed by natural disasters, wars and looting.

    It also says that:
    “According to Zoroastrian tradition, it still existed in the second millennium BC and was captured by the legendary king of Rustam. There is indirect evidence and ancient authors. The last mention of the Sun temple belongs to the IV century BC. Then a wave of Hun and Gothic migrations erased the last traces of the heavenly city. But even in the X century historian and traveler, Abu al-Hasan ibn al-Husayn al-Masudi wrote: “In Slavic lands were revered building. Between the other was in their house on the hill, on which philosophers wrote that she is one of the highest mountains in the world (that is, we are talking about Elbrus – the highest mountain of the Caucasus). On this building there is a story: the quality of its construction, the location of its heterogeneous rocks and their different colors of the hole made in the upper part, that is built into these holes to watch the sunrise on the situation there, and precious stones Signs that indicate future events, there was the sound of his dome and that is perceived by hearing these sounds.”

    This excerpt again assumes the temple was built on Mt. Elbrus, which the book of Kolyada says was a spiritual centre (“the White City was near Elbrus, where the Slavic tribe of the Belogorov lived”), but I thought I would mention the Ural mountains as a possibility too, as this question has been boggling me for the last 2 days! 😀

    And finally, according to the same source, this temple is supposedly also mentioned in the Iranian kings-list called Shahnameh, where it says:

    You say, not the city – a pagan temple:
    Flowers, all adorned with brocade there …
    City spread like heaven to him,
    Captivating unprecedented shine your …
    Treasures everywhere: there – a treasure of gold,
    Here Lala and pearls shine in beauty …
    In the diamond piece, smart, slim,
    Flaunt fresh virgin spring.

    Ehhh, it looks like I wrote quite an essay on this, and hope it does not bother people too much, as I know how fascinated we can get sometimes with our different little areas of research… 🙂

    Wishing everyone a lot of inspiration and Divine guidance in their work!
    And many thanks to Lara for this beautiful book which I feel has a potential to ignite the ‘spiritual enthusiasm’ in many people.

    • Bogdan November 17, 2018 at 12:32 am - Reply

      Hey Lucia,

      Thank you for your very interesting essay, I really loved reading it as I felt so much enthusiasm in it. It seems you are on to something! I was also triggered by it as Mount Elbrus very much had my interest a while ago. I have actually climbed Mt. Elbrus once and have seen some odd looking caves, stone formations the ever present ‘double peaks’. I was triggered by your article and looked up my old pictures when I was there to see if I missed something. When I was there I had a Russian guide and he knew lots of people in the area, but I can’t remember him telling me anything deeply mystical about the mountain, but you never know, I might have walked over the temple over thick layers of ice and missed it. One of the things that can help to explore is maybe check if people in Mineralnye Vody or closer to the mountain have some ancient stories about it. The same could be useful for the location of the Urals if you pinpointed the temple more precisely in those mountains. I wish you lots of insights and strength in your quest!

      • Lucia November 17, 2018 at 12:15 pm - Reply

        Hi Bogdan,

        Thank you for your reply, and how amazing you have been able to climb Mount Elbus! I have collected quite an array of pictures of this beautiful mountain (or should I say the “mountain couple”), and have been watching it often before going to sleep as a presentation, hoping to maybe at least catch a glimpse of it in the astral… It also surprised me that despite its height of of about 5600m, the Elbrus seems to be quite accessible, and I have seen lots of pictures of expeditions of people going there, and even some sort of “road” leading to it.

        Regarding the temple, I think it would make sense if there was a temple on Mt. Elbrus, as the Caucasus area seems to have been a centre of spirituality for so long, so it would just be logical if its highest peaks contained a spiritual centre of sorts. It has been variously called the “mountain of the blessed”, or “the throne of the ruler of the universe and the king of spirits” by the locals. Archaeologists even found around 160 of mysterious ancient settlements around the foothills of Elbrus that were carbon dated to about IX—XIII centuries BC that they can not assign to any known culture: http://earth-chronicles.com/histori/the-mystery-of-unknown-civilization-in-the-foothills-of-elbrus.html

        I just thought that the particular temple mentioned in the Book of Kolyada, with precious stones and so on, could have possibly be another temple, built in Urals. In the process, I got really interested in the Ural Mountains, so maybe I will have a deeper look into that area at some point later too. Interestingly, while researching the North Caucassian (Circassian or Cherkez) culture, I found an interview with a Russian researcher who said that there exists a theory of people migrating from the Arkaim culture of the Urals down South due to the climate change, and one of the groups that were migrating South settled in the Caucasus area. I found that particular video quite informative, for those who speak Russian and are interested in these sorts of things: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idED5VgfTO0

        • Bogdan November 17, 2018 at 11:11 pm - Reply

          Hi Lucia,

          Thank you for your reply. I did some ‘gem search’ to see what I could find out about these Ural Mountains gemstones. One that was in particular very interesting is Alexandrite that changes colour from green when exposed to (sun)light to raspberry red colour when lit by (synthetic) incandescent light. Could this stone have some mystical properties? This could have very nice ritualistic uses and maybe it was even used in the temple 😉 I am very curious what you might find out more furthering your search. Wish you lots of discoveries!

          • Lucia November 19, 2018 at 11:37 am

            That sounds so nice Bogdan about Alexandrite! The precious stones really seem to be something special, from the spiritual point of view too, and it would be nice to know more about them. Since as long as I remember, I have been inspired to get a ruby. Nothing big, just something small but of a good quality to wear on my chest. I remember having this desire as a teenager, and now it resurfaced again. This makes me wonder why do I wish to have this particular stone? Maybe there is more to it, but I don’t know what.

            Regarding the colour change of Alexandrite from green to red, it almost reminded me of the plants that also go nice green on the sun, and wither when there is a lack of it. Could this precious stone have some kind of “proto-photo-synthesis” funcion in place as the colour green seems to be the colour of life? 🙂 Just speculating…

    • Craig November 18, 2018 at 10:31 am - Reply

      Thanks for the great report Lucia, the Urals sounds wonderful!

      Lara’s book is really helping me to connect with something within, despite it being more of a research book. Although I haven’t finished yet, there’s a lot of information in there to be assimilated!

      • Lucia November 19, 2018 at 11:40 am - Reply

        That’s exactly how it feels to me Craig, that Lara’s book is not just a ‘traditional’ history book, but it has a living spirituality imbued within it, which helps us to connect to the same qualities/ancient memories perhaps, within us.

      • Michael November 19, 2018 at 3:17 pm - Reply

        Yes. that’s right Craig and Lucia. Lara’s book adds in that vital sense of living spirituality and meaning, both of which are lacking from purely academic historical books.

    • Karim November 19, 2018 at 9:45 pm - Reply

      You’re taking researching for gems of knowledge on the Religion of the Sun quite literally I see 😉

      Thanks for sharing some of those things you’re looking into, where it seems less is known about it (or at least to me), it sounds quite magical.

      Just one thought I had. Looking at the area from Google Maps and also seeing the vast areas east of the Caspian sea (like Kazakhstan) and the areas north in Russia, what I thought was: how much of what is potentially there archaeologically and historically is generally known to us, is it representative of what is there? Imagine that excavations have been going on in Egypt for hundreds of years, but how much funds and projects have been organised in lesser known regions of the world? Not to say everywhere is as archaeologically rich as Egypt or Western Europe, but still I think there are plenty of places that have barely been researched and so we have an unrepresentative view of what is there.

      • Michael November 21, 2018 at 2:19 pm - Reply

        It’s incredible that more isn’t known about these sacred sites, isn’t it Karim? Aside from the well-known sites, there are hundreds or even thousands that have been uncovered, but remain obscure to the general public. Then there are the many other sites that are still waiting to be discovered!

        That’s why Lara and Mark’s work is so important in bringing this diverse knowledge together into a coherent whole.

    • Laura November 21, 2018 at 6:58 pm - Reply

      That was great to read, thanks for sharing Lucia. I wasn’t aware of the sacredness of the Ural mountains, nor about the gem stones.

      I’ve come across an interesting deity who appears in the mythologies of some indigenous tribes, like the Khanty and Mansi (not sure if in others’ too), from the East side of the Ural mountains by the Ob river. His name is variously translated as ‘World Overseeing Man’, ‘The Man Who Looks at the World’, and ‘World Surveyor Man’ among others. He is the youngest of the seven sons of the ‘Upper Sky Father’ and ‘Earth Mother’ and the central figure in their religion. He is the main mediator between humans and the Sky Father. He provides people with their needs and flies in the sky at night on his white winged horse surveying the world. He became associated with the Christ with the conversion of the region into Christianity. In the more ancient past he used to be a solar deity, and his Father is associated with the Sun, either as the Sun or inhabiting the Sun. The World Surveyor Man is also said to have taken part in creation, and then caused a flood to destroy the people and scatter them around the world. They also seem to believe in the existence of previous world ages and a Golden Age or heroic time.

      I’ve seen some references to very ancient solar symbols found in Siberia but still need to dig deeper.

      It’s hard to find much information about this online in general, but this page for example seems to have a credible list of sources: https://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/khanty-and-mansi-religion

      • Lucia November 22, 2018 at 10:15 pm - Reply

        Hi Laura, Siberia is indeed a very interesting area that seems to have had a lot more going on in there in the ancient past than it does today… The video Lara just shared with R. Carlson explaining about the life in those regions during the last ice-age sounds quite probable to me, since many areas that are habitable today used to be inhabitable before, and vice-versa. I have also stumbled on several cases of ancient findings in those regions, like for example this bracelet dating to 70 000 years ago (https://sananda.website/ancient-civilization-update-70000-years-old-bracelet-discovered-in-siberia-august-4th-2017/), megaliths (http://www.soul-guidance.com/houseofthesun/shoria.html), or the mysterious metallic spheres (https://www.ancient-code.com/are-the-mysterious-metallic-spheres-of-siberia-product-of-a-long-lost-ancient-civilization/).

        Another thing that caught my attention is the connection that there supposedly exists between the Siberian area, Ural Mountains and the Caucasus area. It would be interesting to know more about the movements of people in these regions over the millennia. Interestingly, some people of Caucasus area have the facial features similar to the Siberians, especially the “Mongolian eyes”. Another interesting source for me was the article by V. Lepage on the arctic origins of the wise sages that have been helping humanity before disappearing (https://www.newdawnmagazine.com/articles/arkaim-russias-ancient-city-the-arctic-origin-of-civilisation). She writes:

        “Perhaps 100,000 years ago or more, so the hypothesis runs, a great star-gazing Ice Age people lived in the Arctic region, at that time a temperate zone, before migrating south to Inner Asia as conditions changed and the great ice sheets melted. There, in a fertile, paradisaical land, these unknown sages became the core of a Ural-Altaic race that continued to evolve over the millennia, improving the stock of primitive humanity by intermarriage, developing cosmological sciences and political structures that sowed the seeds of our present civilised state, migrating across the earth and then disappearing, leaving immortal legends about itself behind.”

        This would seem to me like there may have been an advanced civilisation in the Arctic/Siberia, that moved down to Urals, and then also to the Caucasus area. It also looks like this movement of people was not smooth, but there may have been a couple of disasters hitting the Earth in-between, wiping out a lot of Earth population. The existence of different ancient underground tunnels and whole underground ancient cities all over the Earth seem like some people may have known about these disasters in advance, and have prepared for them beforehand.

        • Martin November 25, 2018 at 3:55 am - Reply

          That’s amazing Lucia, thanks for sharing

  10. Daniel Languiller November 6, 2018 at 1:39 am - Reply

    So I’m a bit late to this thread. Great discussions here!

    I’ve kinda had an obsession with ancient Egypt for a while, it’s kind of old hat I know as that area has been so extensively researched by many of the greats.

    I have a decent knowledge base of that area having read all the major works by West, Temple, Hancock, Bauval. I also have some of the extensive tomes by Schwaller de Lubicz, which show the amazing geometry that went in to building the temple of Karnak and the temple of Luxor.

    I recently saw a short for the second season of the Magical Egypt series (unfortunately they are charging a fair bit to stream this series atm so I can’t check it out just yet). In the short though there is a mention that the same geometry that went into building the Temple of Man (Luxor) also is found in Hindu temples. It was first uncovered in modern times by a Hindu scholar by the name of Stella Krimrisch, I’m not well versed in the Hindu branch of the religion of the sun but wondered if anyone knew about this in that culture. Where basically the temples are built to replicate the human construct as in the Temple of Man.

    Another thing that interests me is the so-called “Golden Angle of resurrection” as Robert Temple puts it (26deg 33′ 54″) that occurs extensively in the Giza plateau architecture and site planning, but is also everywhere in Egyptian art. I wondered if anyone has seen this come about in the artwork of different cultures?

    Great discussions here thanks everyone.

    • Ella November 8, 2018 at 1:10 pm - Reply

      Hi Daniel, just wanted to say that even if certain places and people have been widely researched that I think it’s still a good idea to follow those internal hunches that draw us inexplicably to some sites and cultures over others. Partly to answer the call to our intuition but also because it always amazes me how little most people know about these great places, like the pyramids of Egypt. It’s actually the common misconceptions that still prevail, like the one that says the pyramids were built by slaves, and so it seems to me that the more people like us can learn about these iconic sites – the kind that often come up in conversation – the better. I personally feel it’s a responsibility of mine, as someone fortunate enough to have access to and who recognises this truth, to help to reeducate those around me regards these places true history, meaning and purpose. (Not in a soap-box way, but more to have a good enough understanding to be able to convey it well, something that I’m working on as it actually takes a deep study and thorough understanding to be able to do!) More niche places aren’t as easy to talk about with others, or are more likely to draw a blank expression I find, buy there are so many incredible facts about the pyramids that it’s enough to really help people to reconsider ancient people’s abilities alone. I’ve personally never come across anyone in person who could tell me about the lesser known alignments and I’m sure it would have made a great impression if I had. 🙂
      Good luck with your research!

    • Julian November 14, 2018 at 12:06 am - Reply

      The pyramids at Giza are just a few of many sites in Egypt, at least dozens. There’s a youtube channel I follow where a guy named Chuck goes over many little-kown sites, https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCt2yxX9jhtBEapmep_K468A

      • Michael November 14, 2018 at 3:08 pm - Reply

        That’s interesting Julian. Thanks for sharing that.

      • Daniel Languiller November 14, 2018 at 11:58 pm - Reply

        Thanks Julian, very true, so much is there in Egypt and they are constantly finding more. Thanks for the channel recommendation I will check that out.

      • Mike November 20, 2018 at 4:13 am - Reply

        That’s a fascinating channel, Julian. Thanks for sharing it.
        It’s refreshing to hear from someone who emphasizes that many Egyptian monuments have been through several renovations, and in particular. the Sphinx wasn’t just carved that way initially to have someone’s face. He really seems to do some good research! I’ll have to watch more of his videos.

  11. Karim October 25, 2018 at 6:41 pm - Reply

    A different type of active reading & an idea of a sacred reading space for research.

    Some experiences recently brought up a little idea I thought I’d share.
    I’ve been going to a library to read a book. The reading room there is a secluded space, and when you enter the room you can feel and ‘hear’ the wall of silence present there, as it’s been quiet there for what must be many decades. The particular book I was reading is not just one for extracting useful info and references, but one where I want to take in its knowledge at a deeper level, personally understanding it. I noticed that in the silence I could visualise the concepts discussed very well, bring to the fore my own past insights, prayer, activating explorative forward thinking of my own, etc. Meditating on the book essentially.
    I noticed I would read maybe one page and spent the other 90% of the time with my eyes closed exploring it. (Bit funny in a ‘reading’ room 🙂 ). But on a more serious note, it has appeared to me there is much more real capacity for taking in information at a deeper level than we normally do.

    I also thought (sparked by Zorana’s comment on the beneficial impact her shrine was having) whether I could recreate the experience somehow at home? because it was so conducive to a meditative study of a book’s content. Being behind the computer, though practical and necessary, is not the best for a meditative/contemplative reading. Haven’t quite rounded of the idea yet, but maybe it’s nice to choose a dedicated space somewhere perhaps at a little distance from a shrine, or a corner in a spiritual practice room, or a seat near a window that looks outside? I thought this would be especially useful for studying sacred texts, material outlining mathematical concepts etc. and anything that has depth to it to explore.

    • Michael October 27, 2018 at 1:48 pm - Reply

      Thanks for sharing those tips Karim. It’s very good to aim to gain a more intuitive connection with the reading material, as well as grasping it intellectually. I wish you further success and inspiration in your research!

    • Mike October 27, 2018 at 4:49 pm - Reply

      Thanks for sharing that, Karim. It’s interesting that even in a public place like a library, the years of silence can be felt and made for such a conducive environment for study.
      In my apartment, I have managed to allocate a room for practices, incorporating different symbols of the religion of the sun. When I go into it, I feel at peace, and the energy of the different practices and the spiritual intent helps me a lot. In the afternoons, when there is nice natural light, I like to read spiritual texts in there and I feel I can get a lot more out of what is written in those times than when I read elsewhere. Now I feel inspired to leave the office early today so I can do some reading 🙂

      • Michael October 29, 2018 at 3:03 pm - Reply

        That’s really good you have that dedicated space at home Mike. I wish you many more inspiring and peaceful moments in there!

      • Ella October 31, 2018 at 6:38 pm - Reply

        That way of reading and approaching a work sounds wonderful Mike and Karim – actually just wrote to Bogdan outlining a similar experience I’m going through with trying to develop the way I tune into a work on a mystical level before I read this post and totally agree. It reminds me of going to the esoteric section of the library as a teen and the sense of importance that each book had at that time. I feel like we’ve become so used to being bombarded with text, with reading little quips on Facebook, half an article on a news website, just being immersed in media-noise, that getting to that quiet place where it’s just you and your full attention, and a book, is really rare.
        There have been some books recently that I’ve felt I have had to really get into a different frame of mind to be able to even sit with, one in particular that’s a collection of oral stories that are just so far from the general language used today I feel like I have to take off some mental conditioning before I can understand it. I also see that meanings come through slowly and to the depth I am able to meditate on them. Other, more intellectual books, work that seems to be written more by the intellect and appeal to it, I can pick up and put down much more easily. Now, as I start reading Lara’s new work (which makes me really grateful for the long dark evenings in the north where you can stay home and read much more easily!), I can sense that it sort of stretches my mind in a rare way; it is both intellectually stimulating and speaks directly to the heart and soul. It’s also amazing to have so many quotes from spiritual texts and scholars brought together in such a concise way.
        I really think the key to unlocking the wisdom in the books given to humanity and the wisdom within our ourselves is to work on developing this approach, so thanks for bringing it up.

      • Karim November 2, 2018 at 9:09 pm - Reply

        Hi Mike,

        Yes I was also surprised by the energy present there, very much like a mediation room, but it was palpable straight away.

        Your space sounds lovely Mike 🙂 It might sound like a simple thing but there’s something so special I find about being present in a silent, clean room and then having the sunlight shine in… with us perceiving it in this silence and from a clear state within. Perhaps even, if we’ve previously moved a blanket around or something and the contrast between the background and light beam is strong, we can see the illumination of tiny dust particles in the air.

        Wishing you many beautiful insights.

  12. Mike October 22, 2018 at 2:29 am - Reply

    This page is such a great idea. I just discovered it. I have a lot of reading to do to get caught up.
    Thanks everyone for sharing insights so far. I look forward to seeing what we can learn together!

  13. Bogdan October 18, 2018 at 5:43 pm - Reply

    Hello everyone,

    I hope your research is going well! Here is a small post with two tips that could save you lots of time as it did for me.
    If you might research some of the modern researchers and are thinking of buying their books, there is a fairly big chance that they have oral presentations on YouTube about (large parts of) their books. I watched an hour video of a conference presentation by a researcher that I was thinking of buying his book. In an hour I got the essence of his story and the important details. I decided not to buy the book as it wasn’t quite in line with my topic and I found that some aspects were distorted and were used regularly throughout the talk. I realized it saved me lots of time instead of reading a book to find the essence of it and I could continue my search a bit faster.
    Another tip of an experience I found quite useful, is to regularly check back to the books by Belsebuub and Lara Atwood, while watching video’s of researchers or reading articles. Their enthusiasm and perspectives can be quite captivating, but it is very important to check often certain aspects of their presentations. When I hear language as ‘I think’, ‘It must be’ or ‘I assume’ I get very attentive to verify. I have noticed some of the theories have some distortions in it and these distortions then work on during the whole presentation. This does absolutely not negate their whole information, but it is good to be alert on the information you add to your research. Also here, it can save you time when you have a sharp discernment when you check back to the works of Belsebuub and Lara often.

    Lastly, here is a link to a channel with a treasure chest of researchers that might be interesting for your research: https://www.youtube.com/user/MegalithomaniaUK/videos

    Wish you all lots of insights and discovery!

    • Michael October 22, 2018 at 2:30 pm - Reply

      Thanks very much for sharing those tips Bodgan. I agree it’s important to check the accuracy of people’s theories, even if they come from someone who appears to be an expert in the field. Thanks for sharing the YouTube channel too. I can see some interesting videos featured on there, which could be worth following up.

    • Ella October 31, 2018 at 6:24 pm - Reply

      Thanks Bogdan, I’ve been pleasantly surprised at the quality of material that can be found on YouTube (for example there are lots of lectures by Manly P. Hall up on there) and have also used autour’s presentations to vet their books and to get the gist of their theories. I’m actually now glad to be entering a different phase of my research though, which is settling down to read the books in the chosen filed of study (kind of inevitably, that of the are where I grew up). I realised that I wasn’t doing very well with my internet-based research, often getting distracted by tempting side-lines and ending up feeling like a scatter-brain. At the time I felt like I was casting a net out into the huge ocean of possibilities to find what I should focus on and that it was needed, but I wonder if I could have come to the same conclusion through reflection. Anyway, at the moment, and as a reaction against my poorly executed internet-based research, (I know it’s possible to stay focused when in the midst of the world wide tangle-web) I’m now working on building my concentration through quiet reading, trying to maintain focus much in the same way you would in a meditation practice, and even to create a ‘sacred space’ while reading these texts. Now I’ve started to read The Ancient Religion of the Sun in a similar way, with reverence, and it feels very different. Perhaps some books just demand it from us more than others too.

      For example, one of the books I’m reading now is a book of myth stories that really take a ‘right brain’ (as in intuitive rather than intellectual) approach. I can’t read this on the bus for example, I need to be much more settled. I took it to a nearby lake recently, a beautiful place that inspires me, and read it there and felt that this effort made the work much more open to me, or me more open to it. I hope to build on this approach to develop a more mystical and intuitive way of working, as I’ve found that it’s very easy for my mind to get fascinated with something, but actually to tire me out and keep me at a surface level.

      Wishing you and everyone lots of inspiration with your research efforts.

      • Bogdan November 3, 2018 at 1:31 am - Reply

        Hi Ella,

        Thank you for your kind message and thank you for sharing your research struggles. I find your tips inspiring on seeking a quiet calm place to read some works that are paramount for the search.

        I found in general that when doing something, the result is much more fruitful and substantial if I can cancel out all distractions and make it easier for myself to be able to more easily focus on one thing at the time. It’s not easy, but it’s really worth practicing. The nice thing is that daily life gives so many opportunities in practicing this. Making food, preparing for the day, chores around the house, just to name a few is wonderful practice material 😉

        I wish you lots of insights and revelations while reading!

    • Craig November 7, 2018 at 9:39 am - Reply

      Hi Bogdan,

      Thanks for your suggestions (and everyone else’s on this page too!). I agree with your important warning to take notice when people begin to say ‘I think’, etc, as it’s so easy to get lost in one’s own imagination and fantasies when we put forth any conjectures. I agree that referring back to Mark and Lara’s work as a guidepost is a great way to proceed: follow it up with evidence!

      The approach to make sure you’re quiet and centered when doing research is good too!

  14. Karim September 30, 2018 at 11:11 pm - Reply

    A Guide on Visiting Sacred Sites for Research Purposes.

    Sacred sites are an important part of many Religion of the Sun traditions. The sites that still exist present a wonderful living link to this ancient spirituality, and through them an opportunity for us to learn more about it. Here are some tips I put together on utilising your visit for such a purpose.

    1. Preparation.
    – Be serious.
    – Do your best, in the way you know how, to get a strong momentum internally in lead up to your visit, being clear within.

    2. The Right Inner State.
    (Many tourists visit sacred sites, yet largely only experience it in a very limited way. Where the impressions of the site, and other goings-on, merely trigger subconscious clouds, ‘mind models’ that a person is in, overlaid in-between the person perception and the world.)

    – We should be out of our subconscious. There, in reality, feeling the dimensions.

    3. Approach on Site.
    – Consider going there as a practitioner rather than a sightseer, with the reverence the ancient and long-travelled pilgrims would’ve had when arriving at their sacred destination. It’s the amount of effort we put in that decides how much we get out of the visit, and how special our experience of it is.

    – Ask and pray. Establish that connection, open the gate. Sincerely ask for help and learning during your visit.

    – Connect to the site in the way that feels right to you (while abiding by the rules and common sense). Perhaps leaning against the stones, closing our eyes, trying to communicate with the site, relishing the added sense of peacefulness within we might feel, enjoying nature around, doing a practice. etc.

    – Reenactment. Give it a try to actually ‘retrace’ the steps, to gaze upon the same views, contemplate the symbols there, carry out the ceremonial acts— basically recreating the experience a practitioner in ancient times would’ve had. This can bring great insights in the form glimpses of what those in the past must’ve once experienced.

    – Be open. If you’re there to genuinely learn, made the efforts to get clear, asked for help, etc. then it might be the case that a ‘flow of higher knowledge’ is trying to reach you while you’re there. Be open as this might come in different ways- perhaps an intuitive feel where we see an ‘image’ of how things were in the past by looking at the site and surrounding area, perhaps you can sense a certain type of energy or atmosphere in one spot, or even through our own mind with certain particular ideas arising. Help can even come through events in nature around us, or even in something someone says which sticks out somehow.

    – Enjoy being there.

    4. Actively Seeing. We’re not limited to learning through intellectual input only. When in the right state and clear we can learn directly through ‘seeing’, observing life in front of us (just like learning more than we knew about the functioning of a plant through looking at it and wondering about it.) In a way the site in front of us already contains all the answers.
    So what you can do in this clear state is to start questioning a certain element of the site where you’re standing.- Why is this stone here specifically? what era is this aspect of the site from? where would people have gathered? what does the intentional use of a particular landscape feature represent symbolically?
    As you pose these questions to yourself answer them as best as you can by involving your mind consciously, (sometimes there’s ‘nothing’ that we come up with, this might mean we have too little intel to start working with, as you do need some pieces of a puzzle.) If you don’t know simply move on to further questions, activating your answering ability. You might surprise yourself with what comes up in you from a clear mind using your reasoning.

    In fact, visiting sacred sites for the purpose of investigating them presents us with the opportunity to stretch our higher faculties’ legs, that beyond only intellectual recipience, there’s this other way of learning which is so atrophied in us, more of an active and confident one.

    5. Going Prepared or Unprepared? Going there with a prior study, or with new eyes and an open mind?
    – It can be a really cool and novel experience to finally step into a sacred site in real life which you’ve deeply researched beforehand! to see all the things you’ve read about in person.
    This can also make our visit, what we do there and what we decide to investigate a lot more focussed. Setting out to verify claims written etc.

    – ‘Unprepared’. I’ve found though there’s also something magical in going to a site without much previous research. Not knowing what magic awaits. Where every thing we come across at the site is something new and potentially holds a meaning. This allows us to get a feeling and sense of a site of our own— with new eyes. Drawing conclusions from our own discoveries, however we might later find that these discoveries are already very well known :-). But it can show we’re on the right track.
    However for this reason pre-research is good. So rather than spending a lot of effort to figure something out ourselves which is already known, it might be better to simply read such info somewhere and spend our efforts on taking the knowledge of the site further, contributing new things to its understanding.

    6. More Tips for your visit.
    – Go there with like-minded people, who have a similar purpose. And even then at some point find a private space and some time away from others, to investigate in your own way, just ‘you and the site.’
    – Going is always good, but if you can, go around the solstice or equinox times. Better still at the quarter markers of the year that your site is aligned to. And even better still (according to what’s possible) to do your ceremony, or observation, at the sacred site at that time.
    – Tourist trap. The whole energetic atmosphere created by people who are there with their own goals for their visit, like tourist purposes- can be very strong. So again it’s useful to find your own space, and importantly keep an inner detachment. And be careful of not letting yourself slip into a more superficial way of visiting, if that’s not what you had intended. There are many things that can take away the sacredness of your visit, but a big detraction I’ve seen is photo taking- which with its underlying motives can take us out of the experience.
    – However it can be very useful to have captured some photos and media for your later research work or in presenting it. 🙂 The key, in my opinion, is to do it in a detached way. Perhaps it’s smart to allocate a specific time (or person) to it, at the end of your visit for example.
    – Local knowledge. Often the visitor centre/museum and especially the local guide can teach you a lot about a site, use it I would say. (a lot gathered there already in one spot rather than pieces scattered on the web for example.)

    7. Astral Insights.
    – Out-of-body experiences can give us unmatched higher insights that can ‘step right over’ things that might be learned here physically. This can give us direct knowledge to the truths of a site, which we can add to our understanding, be inspired by, can give a general direction to our further research, or even present an intriguing distant answer- one we need to then find our way to through our research.
    – Show and be shown. I’ve seen that people who work in order to share their knowledge, and so are helping others, can be guided and granted a flow of knowledge themselves.
    – Inspiring practices for astral travel. Set up a little schedule with practices that inspire you in order to make it to the sacred site in the astral dimension, or to learn something deeper about the site which you’ve been wondering.
    – It would be great to be shown the full depth of knowledge of a site in all its splendour in the astral. However more realistically we might get shown what we need to, and deserve, like a part of its knowledge. Whether you have a ‘grand’ experience or receive a more subtle guidance, it’s important to realise that it’s that which we have been given and should work with.

    8. Final Visualisation. A suggestion to combine what you know in a deeply concentrated visualisation.
    – Perhaps back home after your visit (or even better while still present and in the aura of the site) get serious, and use mantras (for example) and prayer to warm up a spiritual force within. Then proceed to combine what you have learned intellectually, your own insights gained, everything— into a visualisation. Where (for example) you try to actually see back to the ceremonies that would’ve taken place there, the solemn procedures, the deeper meanings these rites embodied, where people walked and stood, the acts they performed, the sacred emotions they experienced, the meaning of it all. Or anything else that you want to investigate about a site. Again be open to where your visualisation might take you, and do it with some self-confidence.
    You might’ve heard information and different theories on your site. In your visualisation keep these boxes of viewpoints with you ‘in your hand’, letting those things that feel right come forward, but don’t be limited by them. At the same time also be aware of your own ‘box’ of beliefs, which might in auto-defense reject things that don’t fit with it. Or on the other side conveniently welcome all things favourable to our viewpoints, but might not be accurate in this case.

    9. The Bigger Picture.
    – It’s easy to get engrossed in the specifics of research/site visits/current events of our daily life etc., so it can be good to step back sometimes and really ask yourself why you are doing all of this, for real.
    To find within, and remember, our genuine wish to help others, this can bring a deep strength from a personal motivation.

    – A major thing that I’ve come to learn, and something that’s been said in the Path of the Spiritual Sun book too I believe. That not only did these sacred sites serve as spiritual gathering place to give people a chance to experience, feel and get acquainted with the spiritual. On a deeper level these external structures incorporate the inner principles and functioned to teach people how to reach those things within themselves. Which is what it’s all about.

    – In my believe the deeper we experience these principles, these workings of life, in ourselves the better we are able to recognize them and understand them employed in sacred sites.

    Some Post Visit Research tips.

    – Similar to what Lara mentioned. If we try to do all the original ‘ground research’ on a specific subject’s many details it would take way too much time. There are others who have already done this in their field. Better to appreciate their contribution and get up to speed to their level (though remembering that walking along a road is not the same as having found and paved it). So that we can efficiently become as expert on a site as possible, and from that point we can go further, or add new knowledge to the picture.
    – Meticulous documentation of archaeologists on a site can be great, but it might still be too specific. So you might want to ensure you either get the archaeologist who is still able look at the bigger picture of his work, or rather to search for that knowledgeable ‘in-between author’ who has taken a spiritual dimension to the site into account as well.

    Quite a bit of writing, but I felt it would be better to write it out more fully. If anyone has any tips to add please do! 🙂

    • Bogdan October 7, 2018 at 3:18 pm - Reply

      Hi Karim,

      Thank you very much for putting together this very clear guide packed with lots of very useful tips how to approach the research concerning ancient sites. I will definately use many of the tips that you suggested and try to be as thorough as possible in my approach.

      What I would also like to add to this list is if people are able to and the site permits it, to also connect with local (traditional) people who either live close by the site, or people that have a close affiliation with the site or perhaps connecting to the people that also claim their culture is connected to the specific site. I can imagine that oral accounts of ancient stories of their culture may be preserved for a large portion as intrinsic part of that culture. Connecting to people that are alive today, can also unravel some important knowledge about the site. These people may not live close to a site, but still know the stories and it is very useful to track these cultures all the way back to present day if they still exist of course.

      I am really looking forward to read peoples accounts on their quest for ancient knowledge!

    • Seraphim October 12, 2018 at 3:36 pm - Reply

      Thank you Karim for this Guide on Visiting Sacred Sites. It’s nice that you put together all these tips. You give ideas and useful angles that one may can use to extract the most profits of one’s visit in such sacred sites.
      Indeed, the preparation, the proper internal situation and the practices are very important.

    • Michael October 22, 2018 at 2:51 pm - Reply

      Thanks very much for sharing all those useful tips Karim, based on your own research and investigations. You’ve made some inspiring points and I wish you success in getting more of that direct knowledge, in order to find new things out about the sites you’re looking into, which you can then share with others.

    • Ella November 4, 2018 at 4:43 pm - Reply

      These are some good points to consider when visiting a sacred site Karim, and I returned to this post to actively engage my intellect and inner focus before visiting a small stone circle and holy well recently. I’ve been to it before, it’s near a place my family goes on holiday annually, and have developed a kind of relationship with it already, but want to break through to the next level of inner understanding and esoteric connection with it. I already know a lot of the simple alignments, which are the cardinal directions and solstices, so focused a lot on connecting mystically this time.
      The night before visiting I sat next to a fire and spent a while calming my mind before entering into a creative visualization. There’s been so much information of the fire as mediator between us and the divine that I used the proximity to the flickering flames to help find an inner prayer for guidance. Then I visualized putting on a white robe and walking along the coast to the site, with the aim to try to ‘see’ something of the ancient spiritual use of the site, that may be within its memory, or perhaps within the higher dimensions, as is so at special places like the Great Pyramids of Egypt, which are still used in the higher realms for initiation, as written about in The Path of the Spiritual Sun.
      It was a beautiful practice that felt alive, and I ‘saw’ different scenes of women tending a sacred flame and living in a peaceful harmony striving to serve the divine – part of this comes from research I did into the possible use of the site, which may have been similar to the site at Kildare where priestesses kept a flame for St. Brigid burning, just over the Irish Sea. This morning I walked along the coast to the site, picking the few brave remaining flowers of November in the north, and tried to approach the space with reverence. I offered the flowers to the sacred well before standing in the stone circle. This was before breakfast, and later I went again with the whole extended family. There were others walkers too and the atmosphere was totally different. predictably.

      I’ll aim to build on this connection to the site throughout the week that I am staying nearby and hope that I may find a new way of researching a sacred place!

      • Karim November 9, 2018 at 9:49 pm - Reply

        The element of fire (when possible) is a wonderful addition to mention, thanks Ella. As well as the helpfulness in general to us of creating a suitable and mystical environment conducive to practices of exploration.

        Your trip sounds fresh. I think it’s easy to get caught in a mechanical daily routine, with similar impressions hitting us each day making us blind to the outside world (and its activation of the inner world) This locks us into our own mind and we can then start lacking the nourishment of the new, and this make us stagnant etc. So I think actually going out there to sites, away from our computer screens and routines, is very worthwhile.

        Btw. Your note on fire made me think of something. Often sun worship is seen to be solely focussed on the sun. But I don’t see it that way. Rather I recognize it within our ‘perception of reality’ around us and witnessing the beautiful spirit matter emanating from within it, ‘behind’ it. With the spiritual particles of life being in everything, which ultimately are of the sun— which then in way is all around us. It seems to be only occasionally though, almost accidentally even, when I’m hit by this unhindered perception of the proper present moment. The time-stand-still in beauty.
        That beauty exists even if we wouldn’t perceive it, but an interesting question is what is that perception of ours? Is that also from the sun? Must be…

        Anyway I see I’m straying off from research/ and the subtopic of sacred site visits. It does make me think that a good synthesization, or an important part, of the tips I write above about us being there visiting sites is: exercising our perception.

  15. Michael September 26, 2018 at 2:42 pm - Reply

    This is really a precious opportunity to work together in helping to re-establish the collective spiritual history of humanity. Thanks so much Lara for opening up this opportunity and thanks everyone for your contributions so far!

    I have been doing some research and am currently looking into ancient sites aligned with the solstices or equinoxes in specific locations, such as the British Isles and Ireland, Africa and Greece. I’ve found a few interesting discoveries so far and would be happy to post some of the leads once we have a system of sharing research in place.

    Good luck everyone in your efforts! Although it can take a while to get past the initial barrier of not finding much at the outset, once the ball is rolling, it’s a very enjoyable task, as well as much needed.

    Thanks again Lara and Mark for all the research you have already carried out and for putting it all into the perspective of the spiritual path, which is the key component missing from purely academic research.

  16. Lucia September 24, 2018 at 10:36 pm - Reply

    Hello Lara,

    As I have been looking into the legends, traditions and histories of the people of the Caucassus region lately, it just srtuck me how many interesting things and cross-references I am stumbling upon, and since to put it all into a coherent whole will take some time, an idea came to me that if there were the areas dedicated to different regions/traditions people are researching somewhere on this website, then one could just go there and read what people have discovered so far in that area, what they are working on, or add a little contribution that they stumbled upon that may help those who work on a more comprehensive research of that area.

    Today, for example, I came across an interesting possible connection between the Celtic people and the people of Caucassus called Circassians or Adyghe (https://circassiatimesenglish.blogspot.com/2016/05/were-celts-originally-circassian.html) which maybe would be of interest to those who are looking into the Celtic traditions. It looks like some people are inspired by these connections, like for example the music of this group: https://soundcloud.com/giraysonmez/celtic-battle-music-caucasian-highlanders
    Or even Loreena Mc Kennitt talking about her possible Circassian ancestry: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8t-l3arVcA
    And her related song called “Night Ride Across the Caucasus” : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lMbVzFtvM8

    This connection of course needs a deeper research, but I thought that maybe it would be nice to have a place for sharing these quick interesting finds in the culture-dedicated areas, so that it does not become chaotic over time.

    • Michael September 28, 2018 at 3:19 pm - Reply

      Yes, that sounds a good idea Lucia – having different sections to post research relevant to a particular region or tradition. Thanks for sharing those musical finds too.

  17. Layla September 22, 2018 at 6:14 am - Reply

    Thank you very much Lara and it makes sense! 😊

    Those points you mentioned are very helpful, and I’ve seen some of those issues pop up.

    I also noticed that interpretations can vary even of ancient texts, for example here is a page, http://www.egyptorigins.org/papyrusofani.htm that compares a section of the Papyrus of Ani, that was translated by a few well-known authors, showing either their perspective, their understanding or perhaps plain misinterpretation from not knowing the significance of the word. So I tend to look for other sources if something doesn’t make sense and see if there is another translation of the work or another perspective that could give a clearer understanding, if its available that is.

    The other thing I have found to be quite helpful in tracing origins and correlations of ancient places, people or stories is referring to Etymology, where it is available. I look to find the origin of words that seem to have been adapted to our times but could have meant something in ancient times. For example, some words have changed in sound, but whose origins go back to older languages. For example the word ‘Church’; people have interpreted the word from the Bible based on the word ecclesia however that word seems to mean a gathering / assembly of appointed people, but the word ‘church’ seems to have its origins stem from Kirk, kerke and cirice (old English) (keereeke – it seems the vowels in this instance are similar in pronunciation as the vowels in mantras, and the c is pronounced like cat and cut) and even Greek ‘Kyriarke’ meaning ‘of the Lord’ and PIE ‘keau’ meaning ‘to swell’ (for me ‘to swell’ can also be thought of as ‘to expand’) https://www.etymonline.com/word/church#etymonline_v_11358
    I also found that names of ancient figures have been adapted over time to a Greek versions of the name. For example Osiris, according to Wikipedia, under the heading ‘Etymology of the name’ it says, “Osiris is a Latin transliteration of the Ancient Greek Ὄσιρις IPA: [ó.siː.ris], which in turn is the Greek adaptation of the original name in the Egyptian language. In Egyptian hieroglyphs the name appears as wsjr, which some Egyptologists instead choose to transliterate ꜣsjr or jsjrj. Since hieroglyphic writing lacks vowels, Egyptologists have vocalized the name in various ways as Asar, Yasar, Aser, Asaru, Ausar, Ausir, Wesir, Usir, Usire or Ausare.” This made me wonder then how similar that seems to the Assyrians and to their God ‘Assur/Ashur’?

    Apart from symbols, I have also found similarities in the folk cultures through dance, dress and other things that helped me to questions their relationship.

    I don’t want to distract anyone in their research by sharing my perspective, I just wanted to note that it does help to keep an eye out to help trace the common threads within this incredible in-depth framework of the Religion of the Sun.

    I really look forward to learning from this and it’s so wonderful to feel connected with people all around the world, bringing our own contributions to this greater wealth of knowledge. Sometimes when I used to do puzzles, I found that it could be that one small piece that made all the difference in putting it together, so I tend not to dismiss even small things, in case they help fill a hole 😊

    • Michael September 28, 2018 at 3:14 pm - Reply

      Yes, I think the puzzle analogy is a good one Layla. One vital piece can make a big difference!

  18. Geraldine September 21, 2018 at 11:32 am - Reply

    Definitely looking forward to finding out more about my ancient roots and sharing what I can find about their link with the religion of the sun with you all here.

  19. Lara Atwood September 17, 2018 at 2:02 pm - Reply

    Sorry about the delay everyone. I’ve been very busy behind the scenes.

    I plan to write comments with tips for researching as we go along and as I get the chance. Feel free to ask questions and share tips you think are useful too. It’s hard for me to get the time to answer questions by email, so if you have emailed questions, feel free to write them here (as long as you don’t feel they are personal). That way, everyone can benefit from seeing the answers.

    Firstly, I want to make a few things clear. Please don’t do this if you would like public acknowledgement for any research you do, as I can’t promise you will be attributed. I intend to use the research to help others as much as possible, but the format I do that in does not usually allow me to credit every person who has shared a link or found an author etc. If you are not doing this for the love of it, and for how much it can help others, then please don’t contribute. If you are doing this for the love of it, read on 🙂

    In terms of choosing a region or tradition to research, I wouldn’t worry if you find that someone else has chosen the same field as you, because having a couple of people researching the same field is a great way to cross check information, and you are bound to find things that the other person hasn’t. I’d encourage you to collaborate if you like, to bounce ideas and finds off one another.

    This is a long term project, so develop a good system from the outset to keep your files and references saved and in order.

    I’ve found 2 things very useful in terms of finding sources:

    1. Many people have already researched the traditions/regions you will be looking into. Find authors who you can see have done a good job and whose work you trust. These people’s work can provide you with a good all around understanding of your topic to begin with, and can provide a lot of good leads.

    2. Wherever possible, find the primary source documents for any tradition you are researching. Go directly to the source, as I have found in many cases that people’s interpretation can be subjective, and often they have extracted some things, but missed others. If you go directly to the oral history, mythology, ancient text etc., then you can make your own interpretation.

    Another tip: Go as far back in time as you can, to the earliest material in the tradition you are researching, to find out how it all began. Over time so many things get altered, so if you go back to the beginning point, you can get as close to the original events surrounding the wisdom bringers and how the tradition started.

    I haven’t worked out the best way people can send their research through or share it, so please just hang onto it for now. The best thing is to try and do a thorough, accurate and comprehensive job, and that takes time.

    That’s it for now! Wishing you all much light and guidance from the sacred sun.

    • Seraphim September 17, 2018 at 5:53 pm - Reply

      Lara thank you for giving us the opportunity to help in the research of the past of the Religion of the Sun and for the guidelines

      Two questions
      1) What about the reliability of the sources, authors and Internet sites. Do it need to be mainly from the area of Universities or we just use what it makes sense?

      2) What about If some or many sourses (for example books) aren’t from english language? Is it fine?

    • Lucia September 17, 2018 at 7:43 pm - Reply

      Thank you Lara for the recommendations and wishing you a lot of strength and Divine guidance with the projects you are currently working on, and very much looking forward to them!

      • Laura September 18, 2018 at 1:29 pm - Reply

        Thanks Seraphim for sharing your questions as I was also wondering about similar things, and especially about some mythologies that have been passed down through oral tradition and written down relatively recently, such as in the 18th-19th centuries.

        Scholars are saying there are several layers to the myths that have accumulated through the ages and been influenced by changes in society, conversion into Christianity etc. Even scholars who try to look into these layers and distinguish the most ancient and original ones could have viewpoints and beliefs of their own that influence how they see the core myths.

        There is also the often given explanation for similarities between distant unrelated mythologies, that they’ve just borrowed from one another. Could that really be the case sometimes, and how do you know whether it’s borrowed or from their own knowledge and teachings?

        What I feel at this point is to use intuition and the knowledge about the spirituality of the sun that you have given, to help us to see what is true and relevant to the ancient religion of the sun as we go and study the very first records of the oral tradition. Does that sound right?

        • Seraphim September 20, 2018 at 5:25 pm - Reply

          Yes Laura, it sounds right. We just interested to find the truth using all the ways. Thank you for your answer.

    • Zorana September 17, 2018 at 7:54 pm - Reply

      Thanks so much, Lara, for your comment here and for opening up this space of help for anyone wishing to contribute research and is facing some struggles. I’m sure we’ll learn a lot from one another’s questions and insights. A few weeks ago I started reading some primary sources related to Slavic paganism and the origins of some of the solar deities like Svarog, Perun, Dazbog, and Lada. It’s definitely becoming more and more obvious that it’s a long-term endeavor and that it’ll take some trial and error to get a nice rhythm going. And lots of organization! : ) I’m excited to see what others put forward, and if I think of any useful tips through my own research, I’ll be sure to share them here.

    • Laura September 17, 2018 at 9:52 pm - Reply

      Hi Lara,

      This is great, thanks a lot for writing that being as busy as you are.

      Please let me know if I understood correctly – at the moment we should just gather together notes and references rather than writing complete articles for example?

      Would it help you more to have the actual quotes written down verbatim that contain the relevant information, or a concise summary of the most relevant points with good references, or is it that it will become clear once you know how you’d like us to share the research with you?

      Thanks!

    • Fotis September 19, 2018 at 4:19 pm - Reply

      Thank you, Lara, for making those points and giving these tips for our research.

      After researching different topics, I found better as you said to check academic research first in order to find related references and then check those references. Most of the papers I found online, was when I put also “pdf” in the search engine. I found also helpful to use the browser’s word searching tool (Ctrl+G or F) inside those papers to track specific references for example “alignment”, “solstice”, “sun” etc
      If I’m lucky to find those books/references online I first go through, again using the Ctrl+G tool to find certain words or phrases I found inside the academic paper.

      When access to books and papers is difficult we may need to register in online academic libraries.

      Also what you said about collaboration sound to be very effective. When working independently information can be cross-checked, working with others the double work can be avoided and time can be saved. And takes a lot of time to read through all of this stuff. That’s another reason I really appreciate the work/research you have done.

      I have also noticed there is also a lot of distraction during that research from other information I come across which looks interesting and intrigues to look it further when is unrelated to the specific topic I’m researching at that time. Things become chaotic if I give in to this stimulus, so I keep some notes aside with those links to check them some other time or now I can pass them to those who are looking into these topics 🙂

      The credibility of the sources it’s another difficult thing. When even academics they have different opinions/interpretations on the same thing is difficult to choose one side. I might choose the one that fits more with the “religion of the sun” concept but still, something is missing. I’m more leaning against presenting the whole picture with the different opinions highlighting the one I like most though… And sometimes the original source is fragments of different texts where single words giving some indications about different scenarios…

      And closing I want to say that I face a lot of disappointment because of the lack of original sources and access on them, but those small traces gave me great inspiration to carry on further, together with watching the results of the huge research is coming forward from Sacro Sawel, spiritualsun.com and the book “The Path of the Spiritual Sun”.
      Thanks for this!

      Looking forward to any updates!

      • Michael September 28, 2018 at 3:32 pm - Reply

        Thanks for sharing those tips Fotis. Adding the term “PDF” to a search could certainly increase the likelihood of finding more reliable academic publications. There is also Google Scholar, although I wonder if there is a similar, but more private resource available through another search engine. Using the “find” feature is also a good way to quickly locate phrases within a text, as you mentioned.

        I agree that it’s good to stay focussed when working on research, to avoid getting distracted and drifting off into different directions. When doing research before, I found I could get tempted to “quicky check out” a site that seemed of interest, yet wasn’t really relevant to what I wanted to look into. In those cases, I found it helpful to open the page in a new tab and carry on with the relevant task. More often than not, when I came back to those extra tabs after finishing with the research I’d been working on, I realised they weren’t really worth the time to look at, once the initial hook to “quickly check something out” had passed.

        • Michael November 8, 2018 at 3:51 pm - Reply

          Just a quick update on searching using Google Scholar. I actually found it much more beneficial than using a standard search engine, as the results were much more specific to what I was actually trying to find out. Other search engines tended to typically come up with Wikipedia articles, Trip Advisor, blogs and events pages, which didn’t really offer me anything new, once I had found out the basics on a particular sacred site.

          Whereas using Google Scholar, I was able to access quite a lot of research articles, as well as PDFs of some old books, which were relevant to my searches. I quickly checked if there was anything similar on DuckDuckGo, but it seems they don’t currently have it available. I’d be interested to hear of anything new though.

          • Martin November 9, 2018 at 9:53 am

            Thanks for posting this Michael,

            Google Scholar in my experience is far superior to the rest of them; the only downside being that some of the content requires payment to access.

          • Justin November 9, 2018 at 3:39 pm

            If you are a university student or graduate, you may find that you still have access to many online resources via your university (some schools allow alumni to retain their login access).

            If so, you may find that a lot of the scholarly work requiring payment is available to you via your university login.

          • Martin November 12, 2018 at 5:06 am

            Good point Justin, thanks for sharing.

            I’ve found university libraries are an excelent resource as well. The one I use is open to the public.

          • Michael November 12, 2018 at 2:13 pm

            Thanks for that suggestion Justin; it’s a good idea, which I hadn’t thought of. I’ll contact my old university to find out.

          • Karim November 12, 2018 at 9:53 pm

            Useful to hear of your experience Michael.

            Just to add to what Justin mentioned. I realised that some libraries offer access not only to their own digitised content, but often also give access from their computers to many different online databases.

          • Michael November 13, 2018 at 3:53 pm

            OK, thanks for that Karim. Worth checking out!

    • Bogdan September 19, 2018 at 5:45 pm - Reply

      Dear Lara,

      First of all thank you for this wonderful opportunity to learn and contribute. I think this will open a wealth of knowledge for all practitioners of the Religion of the Sun and I hope it can inspire more people through your work. I also agree with all your points and through your opportunity, I have learned so much already, which I am very grateful for. It has opened up a new ‘dimension’ for my inner path and doing the research has made my love for finding out more about the Ancient Religion of the Sun grow considerably.

      My prime focus in this research are specific cultures and traditions that have derived from or been influenced by the ancient Religion of the Sun, that are still alive today and have the stories and the sacred sites as evidence. I fully agree with you that it is very important to go as far back and as deep into the source, as possible, so I will hold this as one of my markers.

      At the moment I have chosen to investigate cultures in the Meso-and Southern American continent as this is the most logical, practical and inspirational for me whilst living here.

      My intention was to start digging deeper, into the cultures preceding the Inca, Maya, Aztec, etc. My starting point was Viracocha and I found two cultures preceding the Inca, that are still alive and upholding (part of) original traditions. I found that for example the Aymara peoples (province of Oruro, Bolivia) still have loads of stories and sacred sites that they link directly to Viracocha, about the civilisation he initiated and about the preceding floods. And on top of that, the Uru people, preceding the Aymara, and still alive today in the region of Huanuni, Bolivia, are holders of ancient knowledge on Viracocha and the time that he lived on this continent. This area of these two peoples is extremely interesting and the advantage is that I could go to the cultures themselves and at least be closer to the source than the books and articles describing them. I also researched Kukulkan and found the Olmec, but that culture is long gone and disappeared into a foggy mystery. Scientists are now scrambling over each other about where they came from, if they practiced human sacrifice or not etc. so there is some caution to be applied there.

      I found some great sources of research to investigate these cultures and follow the clues so hopefully that can lead to some interesting facts. I am curious if other practitioners of the Religion of the Sun have chosen this continent as well. It would be great to maybe keep in contact and see how we can help each other out.

      My question to you Lara would simply be, ‘which cultures and traditions from the Meso- and Southern American continent are you most interested in at the moment and for the foreseeable future? I this way I can also integrate those cultures and see how they are perhaps linked to Ayamara, Olmec, Uru and others that I might come across.
      In any case, thank you again for this wonderful opportunity,

      Wishing you and everyone else much strength and perseverance with the research!

      • Michael September 28, 2018 at 3:37 pm - Reply

        It sounds like you have a very good opportunity to focus on those relevant areas Bogdan, especially as you have the opportunity to trace the oral histories of some of those traditions from close sources. I also wish you strength and perseverance in your efforts!

        • Bogdan September 30, 2018 at 2:31 pm - Reply

          Hi Michael,

          Thank you very much for your kind message. I wish you also lots of insights and good discoveries for your research quest in the areas that you are looking into. I hope this effort by so many people will lead to more understanding, learning and also newly interested people in the Ancient Religion of the Sun and its practices.

    • Patricia September 20, 2018 at 3:52 am - Reply

      Thanks Lara for posting these helpful tips. I would gladly share any information I come across during my research and would be happy to collaborate with anyone else who may also be working on the same topics.

      Currently I’m doing research on different ancient indigenous peoples of Italy such as the Etruscans, Umbrians, Sicanians, Sicels, Elymians, and others (Villanovan and Castelluccio cultures) to determine whether they are connected to the religion of the sun. I am also trying to trace the history of Dionysus (who has been referred to as Bacchus and Liber Pater by the Romans and Fufluns Pacha by the Etruscans) and the impact he made in Italy. I’m also looking into other Pre-Roman and Pre-Greek sun gods/goddesses and mythology stories of ancient Italy.

      One very intriguing and peculiar myth I came across is the story involving the escapee Daedalus, an angry King Minos of Crete in pursuit of him and his untimely encounter with King Kokalos/Cocalus/Cocalo of the Sicanians, the most ancient people that inhabited Sicily. It seems to be a story based on the continuation/aftermath of the Minotaur/Labryinth tale. Several classical authors, including but not limited to Herodotus (in The Histories) and Ovid (in Metamorphoses), who have briefly written about it. Other than that, there has been very little ever written about the Sicanians and King Kokalos. It would be great to learn more about this myth and its symbolism.

      • Daniel Languiller November 8, 2018 at 3:30 am - Reply

        Hi Patricia, when researching that area did you ever come across a site called the Oracle of the Dead at Baia? I believe it is located in what is now modern day Italy. I remember reading about it in a book by Robert Temple when I was reading his works about Egypt. People who have researched the site have described it as “descending into hell”. From memory it also seemed to have some equinox/solstice alignments. I wonder if there was something there to do with the descent into darkness as described in the Path of the Spiritual Son, etc. Unfortunately I can’t remember much more than that but I remembered it when seeing you were researching cultures from around Italy. All the best with your research.

        • Patricia November 14, 2018 at 2:00 am - Reply

          Hi Daniel

          Thanks for sharing that intriguing bit of info on the Oracle of the Dead at Baia – I have never heard of that until now and will have to take a closer look at it. I recall in The Aeneid a scene where Aeneas descends to the underworld in an area that I assume would be somewhere near Rome (in ancient Baia?). In the Odyssey, Odysseus also travels to specific areas believed to be found in Italy and Sicily (Mount Etna, another vulcano with plenty of myths tied to it, the Aeolian islands, the Straits of Messina, etc.) and he too descends to the underworld – whether it was the same portal, who knows? Even the Italian region of Sicily (which has three active vulcanos) has been often been referred to as the Island of Persephone as it was believed to be closely connected to her myth and her ties to the underworld.

          Thanks for the well wishes – I wish you all the best with your research as well and would love to learn more about the exciting connections you find in relation to Egypt.

          • Daniel Languiller November 15, 2018 at 12:02 am

            I’m a bit hazy on the details as I said. I do remember the researchers likening it to the river Styx from the Greek mythology. There is apparently water down there (I think). The researchers thought this site may actually be the river Styx from the mythology. Though perhaps more likely, this was a site used to represent the underworld in some way. Not sure if it’s exactly related to the religion of the sun, but some parts do seem to fit. I may re-read that part of that book again, with the new knowledge recently released by Lara/Belsebuub, it may be more clear to me.

    • Ella September 21, 2018 at 6:50 pm - Reply

      Thanks Lara for the open invitation to be part of this important project – I hope it’s able to make a big impact far and wide. It would be wonderful to contribute and at the same time develop my own understanding of how a solar religion was seeded, spread and practiced around the world. At the moment I feel like I’m still in the process of grasping the ‘bigger picture’ and so can’t yet hone in on one particular cultural manifestation, though I have a sense that I will explore that of the country where I grew up, at first; there’s a special kind of stirring inside when I read about the gods of the landscape that shaped me and I think this will be a key force to tap into to merge the intellectual study with a more esoteric and personal one. I also aim to include actual contact with sacred sites tied into these myths to ground the work in tangible and mystical experience.

      So for now I’m going to continue with your recommended readings – like Hancock’s work – and also will re-read The Path of the Spiritual Sun’s opening chapters soon as they give such a great overview of the world’s ‘hidden history’, as well as the spiritual motivation needed to be self-disciplined, which this research work entails!

      Wishing everyone much strength with this project.

    • Martin September 22, 2018 at 7:05 am - Reply

      Thanks so much for sharing these points Lara,

      I’ve been digging into Australian Aboriginal culture where it appears there was a great knowledge of the sun, stars and how they moved but sadly it’s difficult to fact check as most of it appears to have been covered up or somehow corrupted.

      It’s amazing material though and there’s a lot to uncover. If any one else is looking at this I’d be interested to compare notes.

      • Michael September 28, 2018 at 3:40 pm - Reply

        That’s an interesting area to focus on Martin. I also have an interest in Australian Aboriginal culture, although can imagine it can be difficult to fact check, as you mentioned, due to the oral history and supression of that culture over recent centuries. I’d be interested to share what I find if I uncover anything relevant though.

        • Martin September 30, 2018 at 10:30 am - Reply

          Glad to hear you’re interested Michael,

          An amazing aspect is how old they say the culture is. I’ve come accross researchers who found man made stone arrangements and the aboriginies said they themselves found them and didn’t know who built them or what they were used for. The culture is said to be 40,000 years old at an estimate, with some areas dated to 50,000 years old. Not sure if any one really knows.

          It’d be great if you can find anything related to the religion of the Sun.

          • Michael October 22, 2018 at 2:53 pm

            That’s very interesting Martin. It’s amazing how old the Aboriginal culture is.

      • Craig October 3, 2018 at 11:42 am - Reply

        I’ve also been looking at the Australian history for some time, and have come up with some amazing facts. A lot of what I have learnt is from a Prof. Ray Norris who has spent considerable time talking with Aboriginal Elders from all parts of Australia. But like you’ve mentioned Martin, there doesn’t seem to be enough threads to pull together a cohesive pattern. Here are some interesting factoids revealed by his research, but this isn’t an exhaustive list (http://emudreaming.com/Further_reading.htm):
        – They knew the earth rotated.
        – Western culture calls the Pleides the ‘Seven Sisters’. Despite arriving in Australia 40000+yrs ago “Many Aboriginal cultures associate the Pleiades with a group of young girls, or sisters” and even “most mainland Aboriginal stories portray the Pleiades as girls chased by the young men in Orion”.
        – Songlines are sometimes linked to the motion of stars and planets (eg, Venus, Scorpio, Orion) and aid in navigation across the entire continent of Australia “so that knowledge of the sky formed a mnemonic for tracing a route on Earth”… “Many modern highways in Australia are also said to follow songlines, presumably because the first western explorers sought advice from Indigenous guides”
        – Bunya Mountains are revered and associated with the Divine Feminine, and is located at the junction of several songlines.
        – “Many stone arrangements were aligned by the builders to cardinal directions with a precision that implies that astronomical observations were used to determine their orientation. ”
        – “Many groups regard the sky and the Earth as ‘parallel planes’, with counterparts in the sky to places, animals, and people on the Earth. There is also a widespread belief that they used to be more intimately connected, and some groups believe that they used to be the same thing, or that they became inverted, so what used to be the Earth is now the sky. It is widely believed that spirits, and some people such as ‘clever men’, are still able to move between the sky and the Earth”
        – Some groups travel at night (?Jinn state): “Walk in the night in the darkness, the distance shrinking up. Somehow it’s shrinking up! The earth’s pulling away from you pretty fast! Shrinking up, that’s what they told us. But … during the daytime, the earth’s still standing still. ”

        In conclusion in one of his papers, Prof Norris states: “I am frequently contacted by Aboriginal people wishing to tell their story. I would love to accommodate them all, but time, and the number of researchers in this area, are limited. ”
        Prof’ Norris is generally of the opinion that Wurdi Yuang (researched and documented by him, and featured on Spiritual Sun website) is probably *not* the only circle.

        Aside from Prof’ Norris’ research there are also a few references to different ‘Stonehenge’s:
        – One was recorded and measured by a historian before being destroyed by the landowner (near Mullumbimby NSW)
        – Another discovered by Len Beadell, very close to Maralinga, the Australian Nuclear test site in South Aust’. “‘It was almost like a picket fence’, he described, with posts made from ‘slivers of shale’… ‘it was obviously an ancient Aboriginal ceremonial ground built by those primitive, stone-age nomads in some distant dreamtime’ – an Aboriginal ‘Stonehenge’”
        For those interested, there is a government website AHIMS (https://www.environment.nsw.gov.au/licences/WhatInformationCanYouObtainFromAHIMS.htm) that roughyl documents Aboriginal ‘objects’, including a *very* large number of ‘stone arrangements’.

        Then there’s also some highly contentious ‘stories’ of ancient cultures in Australia (not indigenous however): http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/720016/posts

        Lara, do you think there are more reliable stories that can be uncovered in Australia?

        • Fotis October 4, 2018 at 12:57 pm - Reply

          Sounds very interesting Craig and like there is a lot to dig in further.
          I hope/wish you can find a “clever man” if there is any still 🙂

          Good luck and thanks for sharing!

        • Martin October 5, 2018 at 7:51 am - Reply

          That’s helpful Craig, thank you.

        • Michael October 22, 2018 at 3:00 pm - Reply

          Thanks for sharing all those useful finds Craig. It looks like there are some really good research avenues to follow up there.

    • Aleksandr September 30, 2018 at 6:57 pm - Reply

      As per Lara’s suggestion to keep files and references in order I have started using (and recommend) the software Zotero. Zotero is a professional reference management program used to organize research material (books, articles, websites, films, etc.) in order to easily add citations and a bibliography into one’s writing. I also like the note-taking and tagging aspects of the program.

      • Zorana October 6, 2018 at 11:11 am - Reply

        I recently started using this software too, Aleks, and it seems pretty awesome so far. Thanks a lot for sharing it here. It’s such a huge help to be organized and able to find things quickly.

      • Michael October 22, 2018 at 2:55 pm - Reply

        Thanks for sharing that Alex. It sounds like a helpful piece of software.

      • Craig October 24, 2018 at 5:17 am - Reply

        Great suggestion Alex,

        I used Zotero for university studies and and vouch for its helpfulness! I like the note taking and tagging aspects too!
        It has plugins for Word and LibreOffice so that adding a bibliography is easy (and automatic).

    • David October 3, 2018 at 7:40 am - Reply

      Thanks for this opportunity Lara, looking forward to seeing what else is yet to be uncovered! 🙂

      Just in case it’s useful for anyone, I’ve found you can search a lot more specifically for different topics and pieces of information by going beyond regular Google searches and using the search operators that Google has available. Also, other search engines (Bing, Duckduckgo etc.) find results in different ways, so sometimes things come up on those that are buried in Google.

      I often find that if I just type in a search query without using any of the these search operators, Google will give me results for what it thinks I’m searching for (which can be different from what I’m actually searching for), it will try and correct spelling of words, will exclude words from the searches etc. if it thinks you’ve got it wrong or are looking for something else.

      Using operators let’s you tell Google exactly what you want to see / not see in the results.

      There are two ways of using Google for advanced searches.

      1. Use the advanced version of the search engine here: https://www.google.com/advanced_search. This tool helps you build out queries, but it doesn’t give you the full range of options. It’s not a bad place to start though because it shows you how the query you’re trying to build can be written straight into the search engine.

      2. Use Google’s regular search box, but using search operators directly. Here is a pretty thorough list of the different types of search operators and how you can use them: https://moz.com/learn/seo/search-operators

      An operator most people are probably familiar with is searching with words in ” ” marks, to search for an exact phrase (versus those individual words anywhere in the text of a page). But there are lots of operators that can be used in all sorts of ways, and they can often be stacked together for very specific searches.

      Here are a few quick / rough ideas of how these could be useful but it doesn’t cover all available operators:

      Search for specific words in a string on a page, eg.

      “latvian sun god”

      Search for PDFs specifically that have these words in them, eg.

      “latvian sun god” filetype:pdf

      Search for specific words on a certain type of website, eg.

      “latvian sun god” inurl:edu – to search just on educational websites

      Search for specific words on a particular website, eg.

      latvia sun god site:quora.com

      Search for words, but ignore certain websites, for instance excluding event websites
      (most of the operators work with a minus sign in front of them to exclude that aspect of the search phrase from results), eg.

      “latvian sun god” -site:meetup.com -site:eventbrite.com

      Search for some words, but ignore others, eg.

      latvia “sun god” -beach

      Search for words that are not in an exact string, but are near each other by a certain number of words on a page, eg.

      latvia AROUND(20) “sun god”

      Search for alternate terms which will return pages with any of the alternates you suggest, eg.

      latvia (“sun god” OR “sun worship” OR “sun celebration”)

      Sometimes if you’re trying to narrow down a topic but you’re not sure of how things would be worded exactly, it could help to search for words in the titles (what shows up as the page name in search results) or URLs of pages, rather than in the body of the text, eg.

      inurl:latvia sun

      or

      intitle:latvia sun

      And putting it all together 🙂 This is how you might search for a certain term or set of terms on a certain type of site, and excluding some sites you’re not interested in.

      latvia (“sun god” OR “sun worship”) inurl:(com OR org OR edu) -site:meetup.com -site:facebook.com -site:twitter.com

      That search for instance brought up this discussion about the names of sun gods in different traditions: https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-name-of-the-sun-god-in-different-mythologies-Do-the-powers-differ-in-each-mythology

      This is just one example (and honestly not a very good one!), but there are a lot of ways you can group operators together to get really specific with your searches. One good way to approach it is to try a search in a way you think it will work, and if you don’t get the results you wanted, to then refine the search further with other additions / subtractions to the search query.

      Thanks!

      • Fotis October 4, 2018 at 12:49 pm - Reply

        Wow!
        Thanks a lot David!
        That opens up a totally new approach on how to search, especially when things can be quite chaotic.
        So far I found helpful to find keywords, from scholars’ researches and go through their references and bibliography.

      • Karim October 5, 2018 at 8:31 pm - Reply

        That’s very helpful David.

        I knew of the existence of some of these parameters or operators, but wasn’t aware of others you mentioned, very cool.
        Also in general your message reminds me to look a bit more and spend a bit more time on those initial searches. Often enough if I don’t see anything in the first few results I move on. Or sometimes I find something which is not quite perfect, but then continue to pursue that. Whereas it might’ve been better to spend some more time on the initial search to get to the best stuff and utilize that in moving forward.

        One basic little tip to add to the searches subject. I’ve seen sometimes (admittedly after having already researched a subject more in depth) that if I would’ve known just the right term or name it would’ve given me all the results I needed, or show a group for example I didn’t know the existence of beforehand. But first we need to learn of that term though 🙂 however this might show it’s worth re-searching again and again with the new terms that we come across in our reading. It also tells me that if we’re not able to find something with the particular terms we use doesn’t at all necessarily mean the information doesn’t exist out there.

        • David October 10, 2018 at 4:09 am - Reply

          One problem with searching in Google is “google bubbling” where Google basically profiles you and then will influence the results that it shows you based on what it thinks you will be most likely to click on or most interested in. Sometimes that can mean that the first results won’t actually let you find something new, so it’s worth looking through a few pages at least it seems. Alternative search engines like DuckDuckGo won’t influence the results in the same way, so it can be worth running searches in multiple search engines. You could also try running searches in incognito or private browsing mode – this will remove cookies but isn’t a fail safe way to get results that haven’t been influenced. You could also try using a VPN as well.

          Re: your comment about not knowing the word or name, you can use wildcards in searches as well by using an asterisk which might help, eg. “ancient * people of Norway”. The asterisk is a wild card, which means it can be replaced with anything. So for that search, Google would return results for:

          “ancient Sami people of Norway”
          “ancient Scandinavian cultures, where the people of Norway”
          etc.

          Another thing you can do is look at Google’s “related searches” and “people also search for” which are either in the middle or at the bottom of pages. If you aren’t sure exactly what to search for but think other people might be searching for it, that can be a way to start with something close, and then follow a thread of related search terms until you get to better terms for searching.

          • Olga October 14, 2018 at 2:53 am

            I think these are great tips David, I have personally reached my limit of searching google and getting results that were too skewed towards what google thought I wanted.

            Something else to keep in mind for anyone out there wanting to use google codes, this covers some useful search tips: https://www.lifewire.com/google-cheat-sheet-codes-1616808

          • Ella October 24, 2018 at 8:33 am

            Thanks for those tips David, I was totally clueless about how to use search engines in an effective way it seems!

      • Craig October 10, 2018 at 5:25 am - Reply

        Thanks David,

        It’s great that you’ve shared, in a practical way and using topical examples, how to navigate our way through search engines.

        I also suggest startpage.com as a search engine, although it uses Google in the background, it tends to give a more ‘worldly view’ in its results.

      • DavidH October 10, 2018 at 3:44 pm - Reply

        You are quite the google guru aren’t you David! Very handy tips, thanks!

      • Michael October 22, 2018 at 3:18 pm - Reply

        Thanks very much for sharing all these helpful search tips David! I use a few of them already, but had completely forgotten about some (such as the wildcard), or would never have known about many of the others if you hadn’t mentioned them, such as using the minus sign or specifying a specific type of URL.

        I’ve found it difficult to get the specific information I’m looking for, such as alignments to the solstices and equinoxes, so these tips should really help to make my searches more efficient.

      • Daniel M November 12, 2018 at 3:29 pm - Reply

        Thanks for these very useful tips, David!

    • Dimi October 6, 2018 at 8:55 am - Reply

      Thank you Lara..it is a great opportunity to help out with research…for a collective effort to keep gathering, collating and revealing information about the origins of mankind beyond the historical accounts we have been told about…

  20. Patricia September 10, 2018 at 2:42 pm - Reply

    Thanks Lara for offering this, looking forward to it.

  21. Layla September 9, 2018 at 2:18 pm - Reply

    Looking forward to the FAQ!

  22. Jiri September 8, 2018 at 9:16 am - Reply

    Hi Lara,

    I am looking forward to joining the research as it looks that this may show the connection with our past or our iron age with the golded one. This is an amazing discovery you have done so far about the remote history. Because I can see that there is not much info between the Atlantis disaster and 500 BC. Recently I was reading the news about Atlantis that some scientists say that there is no way that there was a civilization so advanced at this time, so I believe there is a huge need for the articles about the truth about the past.
    Thank you

  23. Olga September 7, 2018 at 3:26 am - Reply

    Hi Lara, thank you again for helping to create this platform of research, and the opportunity to get involved and tie in more pieces of the religion of the sun.

    I have glanced over some work on the Tuatha de Danann and I have certainly seen parallels with the religion of the sun as well as very interesting legends that may hold symbolism that could be literally impossible to understand without the work you and Mark have done to bring together the understanding of spirituality and creation while deciphering the codes and allegories that has kept it safe.

    Some works I have started going through have had very interesting references to wisdom-like bringers, healers, druids, sacred trees and streams (”a new race of people came into Ireland, but whether from the earth, or the skies or on the wind was not known”), the four treasures (Stone of Virtue, Stone of Destiny, Spear of Victory and Cauldron) — as well as other interesting elements.

    I have just started lightly reading the below books:

    Gods and fighting men: the story of Tuatha de Danann and of the Fianna of Ireland by Lady Gregory

    From the Book of Invasions: the Conquest of Nemed, the Conquest of the Fir Bolg, the Conquest of the Seas of Mill and the Conquest of the Tuatha De Danann by Anonymous

    (Some books are not too expensive on Kindle ie. a few dollars)

    I started out on these based on an interest to learn about the irish legends generally, and how the stories played out, important symbology etc..

    A thought that came up was that not everything written may be accurate, for example there was a scene where it was presented like a great war was going to stir, but in fact the two warriors departed promising friendship, other times I wonder if certain legends fuelled stories that may have been repeated for entertainment, and were elaborated over the years, but the stories that are more symbolic were untouched, such references to specific treasures, names, and for instance 7 hazel trees growing over a river, of which seeds fell to feed salmon that gave wisdom to those that ate from them.

    At this time, I was thinking of collecting elements of some of these books based on relevant themes that link to the work of the religion of the sun (Solstice/Equinoxes, Spiritual Transformation, Wisdom Bringers and other similar elements as they arise/categorise) Perhaps in a spreadsheet to start with until the more prominent findings are picked up on. Or otherwise if there is a specific area of focus, would be happy to take that on board.

  24. Laura September 5, 2018 at 4:55 pm - Reply

    Looking forward to this very much too. Thank you Lara!

  25. Lucia September 4, 2018 at 10:48 am - Reply

    Thank you very much for setting this up Lara and looking forward to the activities here! :-). I have already started looking into an area/culture that interests me personally with regards to the spirituality of the Sun, but would be nice to also have more guidance on things from your side.

  26. Lara Atwood September 4, 2018 at 10:29 am - Reply

    Will post here soon!

    • Karim September 4, 2018 at 1:44 pm - Reply

      Fantastic, very happy to hear about this :-)!

      When facing certain obstacles in researching I thought a number of times: ‘Lara must surely have already faced such things as well in the past and she’s managed to find a way through’, so that was quite a motivating thought. Anyway I’m sure this development will be very very useful and I’m looking forward to learn what you have to share on tips on ‘how to research’ well, any knowledge on common difficulties etc.
      But of course also the actual advice and direction on the subject matter of these traditions, what is useful to spend time on.
      As well the ‘format’ to present things in currently, and in the future.

      Beyond what you (Lara) have shared through the videos of course, which is a main inspiration, I’ve also found that hearing people share some of their research to be a boost of inspiration. So hopefully these developments can help you hugely Lara, to help bring things together.

      Really looking forward to seeing this unfold 🙂 Thank you Lara.

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